Fordingbridge repointing and lime mortar work

Joints raked by hand, a mix matched to the wall, and lime work booked for the part of the year it will actually survive.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

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Your joints are due when the lime has weathered back behind the brick, powders under a key, or damp shows inside after driving rain. In Fordingbridge the job is hand raking and a lime mix on the older walls, and lime has a season: the Avon valley frosts early in autumn and late in spring, so the pointing is spring and summer work and the survey is what you do in winter. Cracked or spalled bricks are cut out and rebuilt separately.

About one home in five in Fordingbridge predates 1919 and it is concentrated in the older streets, where the walls are solid brick with no cavity and were built in lime. Those are the ones the season applies to. The bigger part of the town went up from the fifties onwards and is cavity brickwork in a cement and sand mortar, which is far less fussy about the month.

The signs of failing mortar in Fordingbridge do not vary with the season at all. Joints on a gable crumbling back until you can see them from the road. Penetrating damp on an inside wall that only shows after a wet south westerly. Brick faces flaking off below a sill. Grit collecting in a gutter under a stack. We look at every elevation, not only the one you have spotted, scrape joints at two heights, tap along a course for the hollow note that means the pointing has come away from the brick, and photograph the lot. The site visit and the written itemised quote are free, whatever time of year you ring.

The work

Mortar work around the town, old streets and new

Repointing a brick wall by hand, mortar being struck into a raked-out joint (illustrative photo for repointing in Fordingbridge)
Struck by handOne joint at a time, filled and struck so the face sheds water. Illustrative photo.

Soft red brick in lime, in the older streets. Solid wall, no cavity, and the wall keeps water out by soaking it up and letting it evaporate back out through the joint. It has to stay breathable, so the mortar has to be softer and more open than the brick beside it.

Joints come out by hand to about twice their width, with the angle grinder left in the van, and go back in an NHL lime or lime putty mix gauged to the original sand for colour and grain. They are damped down before filling and brushed back once the mix has taken up. On a period frontage the profile is usually flush or slightly recessed rather than the weather struck or bucket handle joint you find on later work, and we copy whatever survives somewhere sheltered on the building.

Cement pointing on those same walls. A great deal of the old Fordingbridge stock was repointed in sand and cement between the sixties and the nineties, and undoing it is slow work that has to be done by hand. A hard joint on a soft brick will not let the wall dry through the mortar, so the water leaves through the brick faces instead and frost takes them off. Joints standing proud and hard with hollowed bricks between them is the tell. It comes out by hand, joint by joint, and it is priced as its own line because it is slower than a wall nobody has touched.

Later cavity brickwork, which is most of Fordingbridge. Better than four homes in ten here were built between 1945 and 1982, with the busiest years in the seventies and early eighties. That is a single outer skin of fired brick in a cement and sand mortar. It erodes at the arris rather than washing out, water starts to stand in the open joint, and a hard frost lifts the face off. Matching it means matching the sand and the gauge as well as the colour, and a trial panel goes up somewhere discreet for you to judge in daylight.

Faces that have blown, cut out and never filled. Where the face of a brick has gone we cut the brick out whole and turn or replace it against a sample held on the wall. A mortar patch in the hollow never matches and drops out inside a couple of winters. Frost damage gathers under sills, beside downpipes and in the courses just above the damp proof course where a drive or a path has been laid up against the house.

The ground floor courses on walls near the water. Fordingbridge walls close to the Avon and its meadows sit in damper ground and stay wet longer after rain, and it is the bottom band that shows it: loose, crumbling joints in the lowest courses with the wall above sound. Those get the most permeable mix on the building, kept softer than what is above them, because on a wall with no damp proof course that band is sacrificial and meant to be renewed rather than sealed.

Stacks and parapets. A Fordingbridge chimney has weather on four sides and nothing warming it from inside, so its joints go friable years ahead of the walls and the penetrating damp that follows lands on a top floor ceiling. We repoint the stack, cut out the frost damaged bricks and renew the flaunching round the pots in one visit. It is work at height and wants a scaffold, not a tower, and the platform is the honest bulk of that cost, which is why doing it all at once is worth more than it sounds.

How it runs

Repointing a wall properly, from survey to final brush

Raked-out joints on a red brick pier being filled with fresh mortar (one of our own jobs, shown for repointing in Fordingbridge)
Raked back firstDepth before filling. A disc widens the joint and takes the arris off. Photo from one of our own jobs.

Before pricing, Thomas walks every face of your Fordingbridge house with you and scratches a little mortar out of a few joints. Lime crumbles to a soft sand, cement comes out hard and grey, and the two are repointed differently. The written quote prices each elevation by area, with separate items for access, raking out, the mortar mix, any bricks that need replacing, and disposal. Every line on it is answered for by one company.

A Fordingbridge town centre front on the pavement needs a scaffold with a licence. On an estate semi it is often just one gable or the stack. Soft brick is raked out by hand. Lime pointing is kept out of frost and shaded in strong sun, so the programme follows the weather. The ground is cleared at the end of every day and the waste goes with us. Anything hidden that comes to light reaches you as a photo and a price first.

Repointing with a matching mortar is repair, not development, so there is no planning application and nothing for building control. Much of the older brickwork stands in the conservation area that covers the town centre, and there are 49 listed entries in and around Fordingbridge, the Old Manor House and the road bridge over the Avon among them. On a listed building works affecting its character need consent, and the mortar is part of that fabric, including its colour and profile, so listed building consent from New Forest District Council has to be in place before any raking starts. We look the address up before quoting.

Cost

Lime or cement, hand or disc: what the price rests on

Brick corner with a moulded plinth course, mortar matched to the original work (illustrative photo for repointing in Fordingbridge)
Matched, not guessedColour, sand and joint profile picked up from what is already there. Illustrative photo.

We never quote repointing per square metre, because a wall's size means little until the joints have been checked. Lime or cement. The older houses near the centre are soft brick in lime and need lime again, which is slower to lay and has to be kept damp and protected while it cures. The estate houses are hard brick in cement, and a matching sand and cement repoint on those goes quicker.

Old mistakes. Too strong a mix is the classic one. Many old walls have been patched in hard cement, which keeps water in a soft brick until frost pops the face off. That cement has to be cut out with care before lime goes back.

Depth and damage. Raking joints back to a proper depth by hand takes time, and spalled bricks to cut out and replace add more.

Getting to it. A three storey front on the High Street, a riverside cottage with a garden and a single gable on an estate are three different set ups, from a tower to a full platform, and the work at height rules mean the scaffold is priced on its own.

So ask every firm quoting: what depth will the joints be raked to, what mortar is going back and why that one, and is the scaffold in the figure?

If water is getting in

Washed out joints letting the rain through

Stone gable with the joints repointed in a lime mortar (illustrative photo for repointing in Fordingbridge)
Stone wants limeOn rubble stone the mortar is most of the surface, and it has to breathe. Illustrative photo.

Damp on the inside of an outside wall after wind-driven rain, or chimney joints you can push a key into, means the mortar has stopped doing its job. Water blows through open joints to the inside face, most often on a west facing gable, and on a stack it creeps behind the flashings.

Give us a ring; do not wait on the form. We look at the whole elevation on that visit, cover or temporarily point the worst joints, and price the proper repoint once the wall is dry enough to judge. Late in the year, once the wall is watertight, the lime work can wait for spring instead of meeting a frost before it has cured. Booked jobs run Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm; a missed call gets returned at the earliest chance.

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Worth knowing

The lime season in the Avon valley

Lime does not set the way cement does. It gains its strength slowly, by taking carbon dioxide back out of the air, and while that is happening the joint has to stay damp but not wet and above about five degrees. Frost and hot dry wind both ruin it.

A frost on green lime freezes the water still in the joint and turns the mortar to powder, and no amount of good workmanship earlier in the day survives that. Hot dry wind does the opposite and dries the joint before it has cured, which is why the work is damped down, shaded and protected rather than left to the weather. The practical guidance in the standard guidance on preparing and using lime mortars and the classification of the material in BS EN 459-1 are the reference points we work to.

The valley is what narrows the window here. Cold air drains down off the higher ground on either side and settles along the river, so the low ground through the town frosts earlier in the autumn and later in the spring than the ground a mile away. In practice that makes roughly Easter to early October the safe stretch for lime pointing in Fordingbridge, and the shoulders of it depend on the forecast, not the date. So the sensible order is the other way round from what people assume: get the survey and the quote done over the winter, and have the work booked for the first settled spell. Ring us in November about a lime job and we will normally sheet it, make it watertight and give you a spring date, and never take the money and hope. Cement work on a later wall is a different matter and carries on far longer into the year.

Who you are dealing with

Who repoints your wall, and how to look us up

Fordingbridge sits 14.1 miles north of our base in Boscombe. We repoint across the town, from the older streets near the bridge to the estates, and out to Sandleheath, Alderholt, Godshill, Hyde and Breamore, and New Forest District Council decides any listed building consent in the town.

Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd is registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719, and Companies House will show you the record. Thomas Hannen owns the business and comes out to look at the joints and price the work in person. A verified customer on Checkatrade marked us 10 out of 10. The site visit is free, as is the written quote, itemised line by line. Before you book a visit in Fordingbridge, you can read our customers' Google reviews, word for word, on our reviews page.

Planning at a glance

Do you need planning permission in Fordingbridge?

Most repairs in Fordingbridge need no application at all. What decides whether a change to the outside of your house does is who the council is, whether a conservation area or a listing applies, and whether the place sits in a protected landscape.

The planning position in Fordingbridge, from council and national records.
Question In Fordingbridge
Who decides New Forest District Council is the planning authority for Fordingbridge. The National Park boundary runs close by, and the Park's property map shows which side an address falls.
Conservation area Yes: Fordingbridge Conservation Area. Check whether your street is inside the boundary before changing anything visible.
Listed buildings Yes, there are listed buildings in and around Fordingbridge. If yours is one, work can need listed building consent.
Protected landscape No National Park or National Landscape covers Fordingbridge.

Questions

Questions about repointing in Fordingbridge

Can lime pointing be done in the winter?

Not safely, and we would rather say so than take the booking. Lime cures slowly and a frost on a green joint turns it to powder, and the low ground along the river frosts earlier and later than the ground either side. Roughly Easter to early October is the honest window here, with the ends of it decided by the forecast rather than the date.

What actually happens if new lime pointing gets frosted?

The water still in the joint expands as it freezes and breaks the mortar apart before it has gained any strength. It looks fine for a few days and then goes crumbling and comes out with a fingernail. There is no repair for it other than taking it out and doing it again, which is why the scaffold gets sheeted and the work gets protected.

Does the whole of Fordingbridge need lime mortar?

No, and putting lime where it does not belong is its own mistake. Roughly a fifth of the housing here is pre-1919 solid wall and that is where lime belongs. The larger part of Fordingbridge is post-war cavity brickwork, which wants a cement and sand mortar gauged a little under the strength of the brick and matched to the original sand.

What is NHL, and which grade do you use?

Natural hydraulic lime, and the number after it is a strength class. The wall makes the choice, not a preference: the softer the brick and the more exposed the elevation, the more carefully it has to be picked, and the aim is always a mortar a shade weaker than the masonry around it. We put the mix in the written quote so it is on record before work starts.

Can you make a wall watertight now and do the proper job later?

Often, yes, and in the autumn it is usually the right call. We sheet the elevation, temporarily fill the worst of the open joints to stop water getting into the wall, then book the permanent work for the spring. It shows on the quote as two visits so you can see what the holding measure costs.

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Repointing near Fordingbridge

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Thomas comes out whatever the month, tests the joints, photographs every elevation and sends a written itemised quote with the mix and the dates on it. Free.