Repointing and mortar matching in Downton

Joints raked out by hand and filled with a mortar the wall can live with, on The Borough, the lanes off it and the newer streets around them.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

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Your joints are due when they have weathered back behind the brick or flint, powder under a key, or let damp through after rain. In Downton the specification comes before the mixer: the village is a conservation area with more than a hundred listed entries, so on many addresses the mix, the sand and the joint profile are agreed in writing before anyone rakes out by hand. Cracked or spalled bricks are cut out and rebuilt as their own item.

The failures on Downton walls are ordinary enough. Mortar gone friable enough to rub out of a bed joint with a thumb. Hard grey pointing put on years ago that is taking the faces off the bricks either side. Or a stack shedding grit down the roof after a windy week.

None of it is urgent and all of it gets dearer the longer it is left, because an open joint lets weather into the middle of the wall. We scrape and tap along the courses to find how far the crumbling material goes, take a sample of sound original mortar from somewhere sheltered, and photograph every elevation. You get back a written itemised quote naming the mix and the joint profile, which here is the difference between a job that can start and one that cannot. The visit and the quote are free.

The work

Mortar jobs on Downton walls

Repointing a brick wall by hand, mortar being struck into a raked-out joint (illustrative photo for repointing in Downton)
Struck by handOne joint at a time, filled and struck so the face sheds water. Illustrative photo.

Soft red brick on The Borough and the lanes off it. Much of old Downton predates 1919, and a good part of it is older still: soft handmade brick frontages, a fair amount panelled with flint, nearly all solid wall with nothing behind the outer face.

On a Downton wall joints come out by hand with a hacking iron and a plugging chisel, back to about twice their width, because a disc cutter that wanders takes the arris off a soft brick for good. The wall is damped down, filled in lifts, brushed back and struck to the profile it already carries. The mortar is a natural hydraulic lime kept weaker than the brick, so the joint wears out before the face does.

Flint panels and gauged arches. A good deal of older Downton is flint panelled between brick lacing courses, with brick quoins at the corners and a gauged arch turned over each window. Those three want three approaches in one elevation. Flint is bedded rather than coursed, so the joints are irregular and cannot be raked to a set depth without loosening stones. The lacing courses and quoins rake normally. A gauged arch is different again: its joints are a couple of millimetres wide and want a fine lime putty. We point each with the material it takes rather than running one mix across the face.

Taking a hard repoint out. Nearly every older wall in Downton has been pointed at least once in sand and cement. It is why so many frontages have joints that look sound standing in front of hollow, flaking brick. The cement has to come out without widening the joint, and blown faces are cut out and replaced with reclaimed brick, matched against a sample and a trial panel.

Post-war cavity skins. Much of Downton went up after the war and is a different animal: a fired brick outer skin in a gauged cement and sand mortar, struck weather or bucket handle. Those joints pit and open at the arris rather than washing out, and the right repair is a matched cement mix rather than lime. Put a strong modern mix into the old wall on the next street and it takes the brick faces off within a few winters. Half a mile apart, and they want opposite things.

Stacks, parapets and copings. On the older Downton cottages the stack carries the oldest mortar and takes weather from every side, so it goes first: cracked flaunching, loose pots, joints you can see daylight through. Repointing above the flashing and renewing the flaunching is usually enough. Brick on edge copings do the same job for the wall below, and once the bedding under a coping has gone the whole length starts drawing water.

How it runs

Lime repointing, from raking out to the last joint

Raked-out joints on a red brick pier being filled with fresh mortar (one of our own jobs, shown for repointing in Downton)
Raked back firstDepth before filling. A disc widens the joint and takes the arris off. Photo from one of our own jobs.

Thomas comes to Downton and looks himself. He picks at a few joints to see what mortar is in them and how far it has perished, and looks closely at the brick faces. The written quote gives separate figures for access, raking out, the mortar, each elevation, replacement bricks and taking the waste away. The joints are then raked and pointed under that one quote.

The pre-1900 cottages in Downton were mostly built in lime, and those joints are raked back by hand, deep enough to hold new mortar, so the soft edges of the bricks are not chewed up by a grinder. New lime mortar is matched for colour and strength, pressed well in, then kept damp and covered while it cures, which matters in frost or hot sun. Older terraces on the street may need scaffold on the footway. Scaffold boards are cleared at the end of each day and the raked out mortar leaves with us. If we find bricks that need replacing, we send a photo and a price and replace them only once you say so.

Like for like repointing is repair, which means no planning application and no building control. For a listed house, listed building consent has to be in place before any joint is opened, and the application normally names the mix. Elsewhere, Planning Portal guidance on external walls shows where a change of appearance stops being maintenance. Wiltshire Council is the authority, and we check with them before we quote.

Cost

Lime or cement, and the other things behind the price

Brick corner with a moulded plinth course, mortar matched to the original work (illustrative photo for repointing in Downton)
Matched, not guessedColour, sand and joint profile picked up from what is already there. Illustrative photo.

The area of a Downton wall is the easiest part to measure and tells you the least. Depth of the joints. Joints raked back to a proper depth take longer than a surface scratch, and on soft brick they must be raked by hand. That is most of the hours.

The state of the brick. Where an old cement repoint has trapped water, the faces may have spalled. Those bricks are cut out and replaced, or turned round, before any pointing starts.

Matching the mortar. On most pre-1919 walls in Downton lime is right. Too strong a mix is the classic mistake, because one hard frost then takes the face off the brick rather than the joint. Getting the sand and colour to match takes a small trial panel first.

Getting to it. A cottage front on The Borough straight onto the pavement, a gable reached off a tower and a stack on a ridge each need different access, and the work at height rules make the scaffold a separate line.

Ask any other quote how deep the joints are raked and whether by hand or by disc, what mix is being used and whether it has been matched, and whether the scaffold has been allowed for.

If water is getting in

Open joints letting driving rain through the wall

Stone gable with the joints repointed in a lime mortar (illustrative photo for repointing in Downton)
Stone wants limeOn rubble stone the mortar is most of the surface, and it has to breathe. Illustrative photo.

If joints have washed out so far that rain is coming through to an inside wall, or a chimney stack is leaking around its flashings, ring us instead of using the form. Move furniture away from the damp patch and let the room breathe.

On the first visit we look at the elevation, sheet or point the worst joints as a stopgap, and check the flashings on any stack. We then price the full repoint once the wall has dried enough to see what is sound. Booked jobs are done Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm. If yours is urgent, ring, and when the line is busy we phone you back at the first chance.

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Worth knowing

Here the mix gets written down before it gets mixed

On most of our patch you agree the mortar with the builder on the day. Here you often cannot. With the village inside a conservation area and more than a hundred listed entries in it, a large share of the older frontages are addresses where the mortar itself is protected fabric.

There, repointing needs consent in advance, and an application is not satisfied by the word mortar. It wants the binder named, the sand described, the proportions given, the joint profile stated and usually a trial panel on the building.

That changes the order you do things in. Survey and sample first, specification written, submitted, and the work booked for after the decision. It also changes what a quote should look like. Ask anyone pricing your wall to write the binder, the sand and the profile into the document, because a quote saying only that the wall will be repointed cannot go in front of a conservation officer. We write it that way as standard, and the permissions you may need is a sensible read before you commit to a start date.

Who you are dealing with

Your repointer, 18.4 miles up from Boscombe

Downton, Charlton All Saints, Redlynch and the Avon valley villages are all within our area, 18.4 miles from our base in Boscombe, and Wiltshire Council is the authority for them. The firm is Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales as company number 15471719. Before you book a visit in Downton, you can read our customers' Google reviews, word for word, on our reviews page.

It is owned by Thomas Hannen. He visits, looks at the joints and prices the repoint himself. A verified customer left a 10 out of 10 on Checkatrade. The visit is free, and so is the written quote with each item shown separately.

Planning at a glance

Do you need planning permission in Downton?

Most repairs in Downton need no application at all. What decides whether a change to the outside of your house does is who the council is, whether a conservation area or a listing applies, and whether the place sits in a protected landscape.

The planning position in Downton, from council and national records.
Question In Downton
Who decides Wiltshire Council is the planning authority for Downton.
Conservation area Yes: Downton Conservation Area. It covers part of Downton, so check whether your street is inside it.
Listed buildings Yes, there are listed buildings in and around Downton. If yours is one, work can need listed building consent.
Protected landscape No National Park or National Landscape covers Downton.

Questions

Questions about repointing in Downton

What has to be in a mortar specification for a consent application?

The binder and its grade, the sand described by source and grading, the proportions, the joint profile and how the work will be protected while it cures. A trial panel on the building is usually expected too. We put all of that in the quote, so the document you use to compare prices is the one that supports the application.

How long does the consent side of it add to the job?

Enough that it is worth starting early, well before the week you want the scaffold up. The sensible order is survey, sample, written specification, application, then booking. We do the survey and the specification whether or not you go ahead with us, and it is free either way.

Can a gauged brick arch be repointed, or does it have to be rebuilt?

Nearly always repointed. The joints in a gauged arch are only a couple of millimetres wide and were filled with a fine lime putty, so the work is slow and fiddly, not structural. It is only when an arch has dropped at the skewback that it wants cutting out and resetting, and we tell you which you have on the visit.

Can lime and cement pointing sit on the same street?

They do already, all over the village. The older frontages are solid walls that have to breathe, and the post-war housing is cavity work that does not. Each wants the mortar it was built with, and the mistake is assuming that what suited the house you had before suits this one.

Do you make a mess of the frontage while you are working?

There is dust when joints are being raked, so we sheet what is below, work one elevation at a time and sweep at the end of each day instead of the end of the job. On a frontage straight onto the pavement we agree first how the footway is kept clear.

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Get the mortar specified before you book anybody

Thomas surveys every elevation, samples the original mortar and writes the mix, the profile and the price down for you. Free.