Patios in Downton

Terraces built behind terraced houses, where every barrow load has to come through the front door or not at all.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

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In Downton the question that decides a patio quote comes before anyone looks at a slab. How does the stone get in, and how does the spoil get out. On the old rows through the village there is no side gate, and that changes the job more than the choice of paving ever will.

The work itself covers a Downton back garden terrace that has sunk and now ponds against the wall, a rocking, cracked run of flags laid on next to nothing, jointing washed out with weeds through it, or a small courtyard that needs setting out properly with steps and an edge instead of being paved flat.

We come out to Downton, walk the route in as well as the garden, lift a slab and take levels off the house. Then you get one written itemised quote with the dig, the muck away, the sub base, the paving, the edges and the jointing listed separately, and the access shown as its own line rather than buried. The visit and the quote are free.

The work

Paving a garden you can only reach through the house

Porcelain patio slabs laid to a fall with a gravel border alongside (one of our own jobs, shown for patios in Downton)
Laid to a fallWater goes away from the house, not along the wall. Photo from one of our own jobs.

Getting in and out is planned first. A micro digger fits through most standard side gates and through some hallways on boards. Where nothing fits, the dig is done by hand and barrowed out, and the spoil goes into bulk bags or a skip on the street. A skip standing on the highway is permitted and arranged beforehand, not on the morning. Floors and door frames get boarded and sheeted before anything crosses them.

What comes out. Old concrete, flags on a sand bed, brick paviours, a raised bed built off the wall, roots and made ground. On a small courtyard that can still be several tonnes, which is why muck away is priced by the load rather than by the metre.

The sub base. Geotextile separator over soft ground and MOT Type 1 in compacted layers of about 100mm. It is tempting to cut this short when every barrow is hand hauled, and it is the one thing that must not be cut short, because an uncompacted base is what a rocking patio actually is.

Porcelain. Calibrated twenty millimetre porcelain suits a small enclosed Downton garden: it is dense, takes almost no water and stays clean in a space that gets little sun. It goes on a full bed of mortar over a slurry primed back, never on dabs.

Stone. Sandstone is warm, easy to cut and forgiving, though porous, so it greens in a shaded courtyard. Limestone is more even and marks with iron. Granite is dense and hard wearing and handles heavy foot traffic. Travertine is not one for a wet winter. Hand cut stone varies in thickness so the mortar bed levels it; calibrated stone is sawn to one depth and lays faster in a tight space.

Falls, levels and the damp course. Paving falls away from the building and finishes two courses below the DPC where the garden allows, as Approved Document C sets out. In an enclosed yard the water has nowhere obvious to go, so it is taken to a gully proved to run, a soakaway where the ground takes it, or a permeable build holding the runoff on your land.

Edges, steps and jointing. Edging bedded and haunched in concrete, a coping to any low retaining wall, and a gravel border along the house. Stone is hand pointed in a matched mortar or given a brush in compound worked into a full joint; porcelain takes a grout made for dense units.

Repairs. Re-bedding a rocking slab, rebuilding a sunken corner, swapping cracked units, renewing failed jointing and correcting falls on a terrace that holds water.

How it runs

Building a patio behind a terrace or a bungalow

A finished porcelain patio in the wet, showing how the surface drains and where the joints sit (one of our own jobs, shown for patios in Downton)
Judged in the wetRain shows the falls and the joints that a dry day hides. Photo from one of our own jobs.

Thomas comes out to Downton to look at the garden, how the ground sits against the house, and how we will get materials in. The quote prices digging out and taking the soil away, the sub-base, the falls and where the water drains, edgings and steps, the slabs you choose and the jointing, each on its own.

Getting in is the first question. A cottage in one of the old Downton terraces can have no rear access at all, so the old ground comes out and the stone comes in by barrow through the house, with floors and doorways protected. A semi with a shared passage means keeping the neighbours' way clear. A bungalow with a side gate is simpler. No trench is left open overnight, the site is swept each day and the spoil leaves with us. An old slab, buried rubble or a drain in the way is shown to you in a photo, with a price, before we touch it.

A patio at the back is not building control work. At the front, a boundary wall taken down for access or a tree cut back can be separate questions, especially where the house is listed or lies within the Downton Conservation Area, which covers the historic core. The Planning Portal covers the permissions that sit alongside permitted development, and Wiltshire Council is the authority for Downton.

Cost

The part of a patio price you cannot see

The stone you choose is usually the smallest part of what a patio costs. Barrowing it in. If every slab and every bag of sub-base has to go through a side gate or down a hallway, the hours climb fast. A garden you can reach straight off the drive is quicker. A raised terrace with a drop at the edge also brings the work at height rules into the build.

Digging out. Old concrete, a raised bed, roots, or rubble left from earlier building work all come out before the base goes in, and that is charged by the skip load, not by area.

Levels against the house. The finished patio has to slope away from your walls and sit two brick courses below the damp proof course. In a sloping garden that means steps, a retaining edge or a drainage channel. Built too high against the wall, it brings damp indoors, and that is the costliest mistake to put right.

Bedding and joints. We lay every slab on a full wet bed of mortar, not on a handful of dabs, and choose a jointing compound that suits the stone.

Worth checking on any other quote: how deep they dig, what sub-base goes in, full bed or dabs, whether edgings and steps are included, and which way the patio falls.

If it has become a hazard

A slab that has lifted or a step that has dropped

If a slab has lifted at a corner, a step has sunk or your Downton patio has turned green and slippery, ring rather than using the form. Mark the trip with a pot or a chair and keep people off the slippery part.

On the first visit we re-lay the worst slabs, check whether the base underneath has washed out, and clean a slippery surface if that is the problem. Tell us whether there is a side gate, as it decides what we bring. Scheduled work is Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm. If someone could trip, phone us, and if nobody picks up you will get a call back as soon as we can manage it.

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Worth knowing

No side gate changes the build, not the standard

A good share of the older housing in Downton is terraced or in a close row, and those gardens have one route in: through the house or over a wall. That is not a reason to build a lesser patio. It is a reason to plan the job differently, and to price it honestly rather than discovering it on day two.

In practice it means small deliveries staged rather than a full load dropped on the pavement, boards and sheeting down before anything comes through, bulk bags or a permitted skip for the spoil, and a day or two longer on site than the same garden would take with a wide gate. It also means we would rather use calibrated paving than hand cut, because a sawn slab of consistent depth is far quicker to lay when the mixer is on the street.

Where there is a neighbour's passage or a shared route involved, we ask first. And where the work touches a shared or party boundary, whether that is a retaining edge against next door's wall or a dig close to its footing, the party wall rules are worth reading before anybody starts, because a conversation in advance is easier than one afterwards.

Who you are dealing with

Patios in the village, priced by the owner

We lay patios across Downton, Charlton All Saints, Redlynch, Morgan's Vale and the Avon villages towards Fordingbridge, from our base in Boscombe 18.4 miles away. Wiltshire Council is the authority for the area.

Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd is a registered company in England and Wales, number 15471719, owned and run by Thomas Hannen, the person who comes to your garden and prices the patio. A verified customer has given us 10 out of 10 on Checkatrade. The visit costs nothing, nor does the written quote, which lists every item. On the old rows there is rarely room to park at the front, but where there is, a driveway in Downton is priced the same way. Before you book a visit in Downton, you can read our customers' Google reviews, word for word, on our reviews page.

Planning at a glance

Do you need planning permission in Downton?

Most repairs in Downton need no application at all. What decides whether a change to the outside of your house does is who the council is, whether a conservation area or a listing applies, and whether the place sits in a protected landscape.

The planning position in Downton, from council and national records.
Question In Downton
Who decides Wiltshire Council is the planning authority for Downton.
Conservation area Yes: Downton Conservation Area. It covers part of Downton, so check whether your street is inside it.
Listed buildings Yes, there are listed buildings in and around Downton. If yours is one, work can need listed building consent.
Protected landscape No National Park or National Landscape covers Downton.

Questions

Questions about patios in Downton

Can you build a patio with no rear access at all?

Yes, it can be done without rear access. Everything comes through the house on boards, or over a wall where a neighbour agrees, and the spoil goes out the same way.

Does taking the muck out by hand cost a lot more?

It costs time, not material, and it appears as its own line on the quote so you can see it. A hand dig on a small courtyard is usually a day or two longer than a machine dig.

Will there be a skip outside for weeks?

No, where one is needed on the street it is permitted, and we book the exchange to suit the dig. Where a grab lorry can reach the front, the spoil goes straight out in bulk bags instead.

How much dust and mess comes into the house?

Boards over the floor, sheeting on the walls and door frames, and the route swept at the end of every day. It is not invisible, but it should not be something you are still finding a week later.

Is a small courtyard worth doing in porcelain?

Often yes. An enclosed yard sees little sun, and a dense slab with full joints stays clean where a porous one goes green. In a small area the material cost difference is modest.

Free quote

Get the access priced honestly, not discovered later

Thomas walks the route in as well as the garden, then prices the dig, the base, the paving and the jointing in writing. The visit and the quote are free.