Fascias, soffits and guttering in Downton

Cast iron repaired rather than ripped out where it is sound, rotten timber taken off properly, and a straight answer on what the conservation area allows.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

In Downton the first question is not what the new gutter should be, it is what the old one is. On a village frontage where the run is cast iron and the fascia is painted timber, repair is usually cheaper than replacement and easier to get past the council.

A quarter of the homes in the village were built before 1900, and terraces make up as large a share of the stock as detached houses do. That gives us two very different sets of calls. On the older run the complaint is a joint dripping, a bracket coming out of soft timber, or paint blown off a bargeboard. On the newer housing at the edges it is uPVC that has gone brittle and started to sag.

Both are answered the same way, by getting up to the eaves and finding out what is behind the board rather than guessing at it from the pavement. We photograph the rafter feet, tell you what genuinely needs renewing, and put a written price in front of you in which every run, every downpipe and the access carry a figure of their own. The visit and the quote cost nothing.

The work

Cast iron, timber and what replaces them

A finished tiled roof with a new white fascia and gutter run along the eaves
New boards, not cappingThe old fascia comes off, so whatever is soft behind it gets found.

Cast iron. Where an old run is still cast iron it is usually worth keeping. The metal outlives everything fitted since. What fails is the putty and bolt at each joint, the fixing into a rotten fascia, and the paint. Stripping a joint, re-bedding and re-bolting it, then preparing and painting the whole run inside and out, is a real repair with decades in it. We only recommend taking cast iron down when a length has actually cracked, and even then a single section can often be replaced rather than the lot.

Painted timber. The fascia behind an old gutter is the wettest board on the house. It fails at the end of a length, beside each joint, and along its top edge under the drip off the felt. Some of it can be cut out and pieced in. Where the whole board has softened, off it comes with the soffit and any bargeboard, and we will price both a timber replacement, which keeps the look and needs painting, and a foiled uPVC one, which does not.

What is behind the board. This is the part nobody quotes on because nobody can see it. Once the fascia is off you get a proper look at the rafter feet, the wall plate and the bottom course of tiles. Soft rafter ends are cut back and spliced. The tilt fillet is put back so the bottom tile lies right, and a support tray brings the felt out over the gutter lip where it belongs. That is why we strip rather than cap over rotten timber. Where a board is dry and sound, capping over is a perfectly good job and we will say so.

The rest of the system. Outlets, unions, brackets, hoppers, downpipes and shoes are each priced as their own item. Half round is the traditional profile, ogee is the square fronted one, and deepflow carries more water for the same width. Aluminium is worth pricing on a long terrace run, because it comes in longer lengths with fewer joints to leak.

Fall, and where it goes. Here is the reason a clean gutter still overflows. Hung level it is a trough: the water stands, the outlet silts, and the first hard frost splits a joint. Re-hanging means striking a line, dropping the run steadily to the outlet and putting the brackets in tight, then filling it from the far end and watching it leave at the shoe. On a village terrace the downpipe often drops into a gully in a narrow passage or a soakaway, so we check that is taking the rainwater rather than backing up, because a blocked gully leaves staining and damp at the foot of a wall that looks exactly like rising damp.

Ventilation, and what nests up there. An old soffit that has dropped away from the wall is an open door. Nesting birds and wasps use the gap, and moss and debris coming off the tiles settles on top of the boards. So the new ones go up with the openings meshed and the verge closed. At the same time the loft gets its air back, through soffit vents or a vent above the fascia, with the gap over the insulation left clear, so the felt stays dry instead of growing condensation right through the winter.

How it runs

From your call to a written price

A completed hipped roof with the eaves, fascia and gutter run finished
Every hip, every runA hipped roof is more eaves per house, and more to hang straight.

Same team from first visit to last, one person to ring, and no sub-contracting your work out to somebody you have never met. The quote is itemised, not a figure on the back of a card: access, the length of each run, stripping the old boards and gutter, the fascia, soffit and any bargeboard, the gutter, outlets and downpipes, and disposal on separate lines, so you can compare it properly against anyone else's.

Nothing is left open or unusable overnight. The site is swept at the end of each day rather than the end of the job, and what comes out leaves with us. If something turns up once we start that nobody could have seen, you get a photograph and a price before we carry on.

A like for like roofline renewal is repair and maintenance, so there is no planning application and nothing for building control, and Planning Portal guidance sets the same line for the roof. Downton has its own conservation area, which is article 2(3) land and narrows what counts as permitted development, and there are a great many listed entries in the village, where work needs consent in its own right. Give us the address and we will check before quoting.

Cost

What decides the price of a roofline

A roof part way through re-tiling, with the eaves course and the gutter visible
The bottom courseThe tiles have to drip into the gutter rather than behind it.

No rate per square metre, because a metre of fascia over a bay is not the same metre as one on a straight gable.

Getting to it. A terrace with the run over a narrow pavement, a semi with a bay window under the front gutter, and a bungalow on the newer edge of the village are three different ways in. A bungalow run comes off a tower, a two or three storey gable wants a scaffold, and a run over a conservatory or a bay window means building the platform around it. The work at height rules are why the access is a priced line rather than something absorbed into a rate.

What is behind the boards. Rotten fascia is a symptom. The question is whether the rafter feet and the wall plate behind it are still sound, and nobody knows until the old board comes off. Capping over with plastic hides that instead of fixing it, which is why we take the old boards off rather than clad them.

The run, not the metre. A straight gable is quick. Bay windows, a conservatory in the way, a corner return, a run that has to be worked around a satellite dish or a service cable, and every outlet, hopper and downpipe are priced one at a time. So is putting the fall back: a gutter hung level looks fine and holds water all year.

Comparing quotes? Ask whether the old boards are coming off or being capped over, what happens if the rafter feet or the wall plate turn out to be rotten, whether the gutter, outlets and downpipes are all being renewed or only the fascia, and whether the scaffold is in the price. Two quotes for the same job are usually two different jobs.

If a section has come away

A gutter hanging off, or a fascia gone through

Ring rather than use the form. A length of gutter pulled off its brackets, a downpipe snapped at the bend or a fascia soft enough to put your hand through goes to the front of the queue, because the next heavy rain runs straight down the wall and into the brickwork. The first visit is about getting it supported and discharging somewhere sensible, and we price the run properly once we can see how far the rot goes. Downton is a longer run out for us than the coast, so ring rather than email and we will tell you honestly when we can get there. The phone is answered 24 hours for emergencies; scheduled work runs Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm.

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Worth knowing

Inside the conservation area, appearance is the test

Downton's conservation area covers the historic centre of the village, and the rule of thumb inside it is simple. Repair is repair. Renewing a rotten fascia in the same material, the same profile and the same colour is maintenance, and nobody needs to be asked. What is controlled is a change to how the building looks from the street.

So the questions that matter are these. Is the run on the front elevation or the back? Is the existing gutter cast iron, and is it visible from a public road? Are you keeping the profile and the colour, or moving from a half round black run to a white square one? Rear elevations are generally far less sensitive than frontages, which is often the practical answer: keep and repair the cast iron at the front, renew the back in something that needs no painting. If the property is listed, and there are well over a hundred listed entries in the village, then the frontage, the rear and the outbuildings are all covered and consent is needed even for a like for like change of material. We will tell you which category you are in before we quote, and if it needs an application we will give you the written description to send with it.

Who you are dealing with

A local firm you can check

We cover Downton, Redlynch, Morgan's Vale, Woodfalls, Breamore and Fordingbridge, broadly SP5, under Wiltshire Council. You are dealing with Bournemouth Roofing & Building, the trading name of Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719, which you can look up in a minute. Thomas Hannen's business, and he is the one who comes out to price the job, not a salesman. A verified customer's 10 out of 10 on Checkatrade. The visit and the written quote are both free.

Questions

Downton questions we get asked

Can I put uPVC on a house in the conservation area?

Often on the rear, less often on a frontage, and it depends on the building. A conservation area controls how the place looks from public view, so the back of a house is a different question from the front. Ring the council's planning team with the address before you commit.

Is repairing cast iron guttering really worth it?

Usually yes. The cast iron itself lasts far longer than anything that would replace it. What has failed is normally the joint, the fixing or the paint, and all three can be put right in place. We only advise replacing a length that has actually cracked.

My downstairs wall is damp at the bottom. Is that the gutter?

It often is. A leaking joint, a downpipe that has come off its clips, or a gully that has silted up will all soak the foot of a wall and look like rising damp. It is worth ruling the rainwater out before anyone starts talking about injected courses.

Will you match the profile of next door?

We will if you want it matched, and on a terrace it usually reads better. Bring us a photograph or we will take one on the visit. Profile, colour and bracket spacing all go on the quote so there is no surprise when it goes up.

Free quote

Get a price for your Downton roofline

Tell us the address and what you have noticed. We will get to the eaves, look behind the boards and put an itemised price in writing, at no charge.