Repointing at Lover, matched to the oldest mortar

Joints raked by hand, the sample taken from the part of the wall nobody has ever touched, and the mix written into the quote.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

Very little of the brickwork at Lover carries only one mortar. Better than a quarter of it went up before 1900 and it has been patched by a good many hands since, so an elevation can hold the original lime, a 1950s repair and a stripe of cement from the 1970s. Matching a wall like that starts with deciding which of those you are copying.

The calls here fall into a few shapes. Brick faces flaking off the side that takes the rain, with the old pointing standing proud of them like ribs. Sand gathering on a sill after a dry week. A stack losing mortar into the gutter. And somebody who has had one quote already and wants to know whether lime or cement is right.

We walk every elevation, scrape joints in two or three places on each, and tap the courses for pointing that has come away behind the face. All of it is photographed. You get a written itemised quote naming the mix and the joint profile, and a plain answer on which faces are due. The visit and the quote cost nothing.

The work

What we get called to on old brickwork here

Repointing a brick wall by hand, mortar being struck into a raked-out joint
Struck by handOne joint at a time, filled and struck so the face sheds water.

The house walls. Most of the older fabric is solid wall, one thickness of handmade brick bedded in lime with no cavity behind it. Those joints come out by hand with a plugging chisel to roughly twice their width, and go back in a natural hydraulic lime gauged softer than the brick, so the mortar carries the wear instead of the face. We damp down the wall, work in lifts, and brush the joints back once the mix has taken up. The profile goes back flush or slightly recessed on pre-1919 brickwork, not the weather struck or bucket handle finish a later house takes. No angle grinder on brick this soft: a disc cutter widens the joint and takes the arris off for good.

The frontage somebody has already had a go at. A stripe of hard sand and cement across an old wall is the commonest thing we are asked to put right. A solid wall has to stay breathable, and a dense joint stops it drying through the mortar, so water leaves through the brick face instead and one cold night lifts the surface off. Where the joints have washed out as well, penetrating damp shows on the inside face after a wet week. It reads plainly from the garden: crisp proud pointing, brick eaten back behind it. Getting the cement out is slow hand work, and it is the only repair that deals with the cause.

Blown faces. A spalled brick will not recover and pointing round it only tidies the problem up, so the brick is cut out whole and a reclaimed match of the same size and colour bedded in. Where more than about a third of an elevation has gone, a patch will read as a patch, and we say so. Frost damage gathers under sills, beside a downpipe and in the courses just above ground where a path or border has been built up against the wall.

Stacks and flaunching. A chimney takes weather on four sides with nothing warming it from inside, so it goes friable long before the house walls do, and the flaunching that beds the pots cracks after it. Repointing above the roof line means a scaffold, priced as its own line on the quote.

Outbuilding and garden wall faces. Low brickwork has no shelter and often nothing much over the top of it, so water gets into the head of the wall, freezes and opens the joints from above. Repointing the top courses and re-bedding a lifted coping is quick work next to what happens if the head stays open.

How it runs

From your call to a written price

Raked-out joints on a red brick pier being filled with fresh mortar
Raked back firstDepth before filling. A disc widens the joint and takes the arris off.

Same team from first visit to last, one person to ring, and no sub-contracting. The quote breaks out access, raking out, the mortar mix, the area of each elevation, brick replacement and disposal on separate lines, so you can compare it against anyone else's.

Nothing is left open overnight, the site is swept daily, and what comes out leaves with us. If something turns up that nobody could have seen, you get a photograph and a price first.

Repointing like for like is repair, so there is no planning application and nothing for building control to sign off. Lover sits inside the New Forest National Park, so the National Park Authority is the planning authority rather than the district council. No conservation area covers the village and there are only eight listed entries in the parish, so listed building consent is rarely in question. the National Park Authority's interactive property map will tell you whether your address is one of the exceptions, and we check it before we quote.

Cost

What decides the price of a repointing job

Brick corner with a moulded plinth course, mortar matched to the original work
Matched, not guessedColour, sand and joint profile picked up from what is already there.

No rate per square metre: the area tells you almost nothing until somebody has looked at what the joints are like.

Getting to it. A garden wall you work off the ground, a cottage gable and a stack on a two storey roof are three different set ups before a joint is opened, and the work at height rules are why the scaffold is a priced line rather than something absorbed into a rate.

The joints decide it, not the wall. How deep the joints have to come back, and whether the faces have already spalled, sets the hours far more than the area does.

Matching is the part that shows. Too strong a mix is the classic mistake, and one hard frost takes the face off soft brick. Lime is right on most pre-1919 walls here.

Comparing quotes? Ask how deep the joints are raked and by hand or by disc, what the mix is and whether it has been matched, and whether the scaffold is in the price. Two quotes for the same job are usually two different jobs.

If water is getting in

Open joints, and water coming through the wall

Stone gable with the joints repointed in a lime mortar
Stone wants limeOn rubble stone the mortar is most of the surface, and it has to breathe.

Ring rather than use the form. Joints washed out let driven rain straight through to the inside face, and on a chimney it finds the flashings too. We come and look, sheet or temporarily point the worst of it, and price the full elevation once it has dried enough to see what is sound. Round here it is usually the stack, or the weather face of a cottage open long enough for the wet to show inside. The phone is answered 24 hours for emergencies; scheduled work runs Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm.

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Worth knowing

You are rarely matching one mortar, you are matching four

Better than a quarter of what stands around Lover predates 1919 and much of it predates 1900, and none of it is protected. No conservation area covers the village and only a handful of addresses are listed. That means a century of repairs done by whoever was available at the time, in whatever was in the yard, and it is normal to find three or four different mortars on one elevation once you start scraping.

Which matters, because the usual way of matching a mortar is to take a sample and copy it. Do that on a wall like this and you have a fair chance of copying somebody's 1975 patch rather than the wall itself. So the sample comes off the oldest sound original we can find, usually a sheltered joint where nothing has ever been touched, and it is checked against a second one elsewhere on the building before anything is mixed.

The second decision is what to do with the earlier repairs, and it is yours rather than ours. A sound lime patch can stay, and taking it out risks brick for nothing. A hard cement patch holding water in the wall should come out, whatever it looks like. A sound cement patch on a sheltered face is a genuine choice: leave it and the elevation reads in two colours, take it out and you are paying to remove something that is doing no harm. We put both options in the quote with the areas marked.

Who you are dealing with

A local firm you can check

We cover Lover, Redlynch, Landford, Nomansland, Whiteparish and Downton, broadly SP5, with the New Forest National Park Authority for planning and New Forest District Council for building control. You are dealing with Bournemouth Roofing & Building, the trading name of Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719, which you can look up in a minute. Thomas Hannen's business, and he is the one who comes out to price the job, not a salesman. A verified customer's 10 out of 10 on Checkatrade. The visit and the written quote are both free.

Questions

Lover questions we get asked

Where do you take the mortar sample from?

Somewhere the weather and previous repairs have not reached: a sheltered joint under an overhang, behind a downpipe or on the lee side. We take more than one and compare, because on a wall this old a single sample can easily be somebody else's repair. What we are after is the sand, its colour and its grain.

Should the old cement patches come out at the same time?

It depends what they are doing. Cement that has cracked away from the brick and is holding water behind it comes out, because that is what takes the faces off. Sound cement on a sheltered elevation is a judgement about how the wall looks, not about the fabric. We mark both on the survey and price them separately.

Will new lime pointing match the old straight away?

No, and it should not. Fresh mortar reads lighter than mortar carrying eighty years of weathering, so a match is judged on how it will look once settled. That is what the trial panel is for: it goes up on your own wall, dries, and you look at it in daylight before an elevation is started.

Is our wall too far gone to point?

Very seldom. Open joints look alarming and are mostly a mortar problem, and mortar is replaceable. What changes the answer is the brick: if more than about a third of the faces on an elevation have blown, you are cutting out brick as well as pointing, and that is a bigger decision.

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Find out what is actually in your joints

Thomas comes out, scrapes a few joints on every elevation, works out what the original mortar was and prices the work itemised. It costs you nothing.