Repointing at Lover, matched to the oldest mortar

Joints raked by hand, the sample taken from the part of the wall nobody has ever touched, and the mix written into the quote.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

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Your joints are due when they have weathered back behind the brick, powder under a key, or sound hollow along a course. Very little of the brickwork at Lover carries only one mortar: an old elevation can hold the original lime, a 1950s repair and a stripe of 1970s cement, so the job starts with deciding which you are matching, then raking out by hand. Bricks that have lost their faces are a job for cutting out and rebuilding.

Lover walls give fair warning before the pointing fails. Brick faces flaking off the side that takes the rain, with the old pointing standing proud of them like ribs. Sand gathering on a sill after a dry week. And a stack losing mortar into the gutter.

We walk every elevation of a Lover house, scrape joints in two or three places on each, and tap the courses for pointing that has come away behind the face. All of it is photographed. You get a written itemised quote naming the mix and the joint profile, and a plain answer on which faces are due. The visit and the quote cost nothing.

The work

What goes wrong on old brickwork at Lover

Repointing a brick wall by hand, mortar being struck into a raked-out joint (illustrative photo for repointing in Lover)
Struck by handOne joint at a time, filled and struck so the face sheds water. Illustrative photo.

The house walls. Most of the older fabric in Lover is solid wall, one thickness of handmade brick bedded in lime with no cavity behind it. Those joints come out by hand with a plugging chisel to roughly twice their width, and go back in a natural hydraulic lime gauged softer than the brick, so the mortar carries the wear instead of the face.

We damp down the wall, work in lifts, and brush the joints back once the mix has taken up. The profile goes back flush or slightly recessed on pre-1919 brickwork, not the weather struck or bucket handle finish a later house takes. No angle grinder on brick this soft: a disc cutter widens the joint and takes the arris off for good.

The frontage somebody has already had a go at. A stripe of hard sand and cement across an old Lover wall is the usual thing that needs putting right. A solid wall has to stay breathable, and a dense joint stops it drying through the mortar, so water leaves through the brick face instead and one cold night lifts the surface off. Where the joints have washed out as well, penetrating damp shows on the inside face after a wet week. It reads plainly from the garden: crisp proud pointing, brick eaten back behind it. Getting the cement out is slow hand work, and it is the only repair that deals with the cause.

Blown faces. A spalled brick will not recover and pointing round it only tidies the problem up, so the brick is cut out whole and a reclaimed match of the same size and colour bedded in. Where more than about a third of an elevation has gone, a patch will read as a patch, and we say so. Frost damage gathers under sills, beside a downpipe and in the courses just above ground where a path or border has been built up against the wall.

Stacks and flaunching. A chimney in Lover takes weather on four sides with nothing warming it from inside, so it goes friable long before the house walls do, and the flaunching that beds the pots cracks after it. Repointing above the roof line means a scaffold, priced as its own line on the quote.

Outbuilding and garden wall faces. Low brickwork in Lover has no shelter and often nothing much over the top of it, so water gets into the head of the wall, freezes and opens the joints from above. Repointing the top courses and re-bedding a lifted coping is quick work next to what happens if the head stays open.

How it runs

Repointing in lime: how the work goes

Raked-out joints on a red brick pier being filled with fresh mortar (one of our own jobs, shown for repointing in Lover)
Raked back firstDepth before filling. A disc widens the joint and takes the arris off. Photo from one of our own jobs.

Thomas looks closely at the joints and the brick before he prices, and scrapes a little old mortar out to see what it is. On an older Lover wall there may be lime, cement and several patch repairs in between on one elevation, and the new pointing has to suit the brick, not the last patch.

Each wall gets its own figure on the quote, covering the scaffold, cutting out, the mix, the area, any replacement bricks and removal of the waste mortar. Where the brick is soft, joints are raked out by hand, damped down, packed in layers and finished to the wall's own profile. Lime work is covered with hessian so it cures slowly, and it is not done in frost. We are 18.1 miles out, so sand and lime are matched and ordered before we start. No joint is left open overnight, the site is swept daily and the old mortar leaves with us. Spalled bricks found behind the old pointing are shown to you in a photo with a price before they are replaced.

Like for like repointing counts as repair: nobody applies for anything, and Wiltshire Council's building control has no role. The National Park Authority plans for Lover, but no conservation area covers it and only a handful of listed buildings stand close to the village, so listed building consent is rarely needed. The Authority's property map will show if your house is one of the few exceptions.

Cost

Joint depth, the mix and the weather side

Brick corner with a moulded plinth course, mortar matched to the original work (illustrative photo for repointing in Lover)
Matched, not guessedColour, sand and joint profile picked up from what is already there. Illustrative photo.

How big the wall is says little. The state of the joints and the brick sets the hours. Cutting out. Soft brick has to be raked out by hand with a plugging chisel, because a grinder opens the joint up and chips the arris off every brick. It is slow work, and the depth each joint needs going back decides most of the labour.

The mortar. The usual mistake is a mix that is too hard. Cement traps moisture against a soft brick, and one bad frost lifts the face. A lime mortar with a sand chosen to match the colour suits most older solid walls, and because it cures slowly it takes longer.

Exposure. The most exposed walls in Lover face south west, and that is where joints wash out first. Sometimes only that elevation and the chimney need doing, and the quote should say so rather than pricing the whole house.

Spalled bricks. Each one cut out and replaced with a match is counted.

Access. A garden wall off the ground, a cottage gable and a stack on a two storey roof are three different set ups, and under the work at height rules the scaffold is a priced line.

Ask the other quotes: how deep, and by hand or by disc? What is the mix, and has it been matched? Is the scaffold in the price?

If water is getting in

Water getting through open joints

Stone gable with the joints repointed in a lime mortar (illustrative photo for repointing in Lover)
Stone wants limeOn rubble stone the mortar is most of the surface, and it has to breathe. Illustrative photo.

Ring rather than use the form. Once joints have washed out, rain driven against a solid wall soaks through to the plaster inside, and on a stack it gets behind the lead and into the roof space.

Check for a damp stain on the chimney breast or an inside wall after a south westerly blow, and note which wall. We come out, cover the worst with a sheet or a temporary point, and price the full face once it has dried out enough to see which joints are sound. If it is the chimney, tell us, so roof access comes with us. Planned jobs happen Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm. If we cannot get to the phone, we return the call as soon as we can.

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Worth knowing

You are rarely matching one mortar, you are matching four

Plenty of older walls around Lover have had years of repairs done by whoever was available at the time, in whatever mortar was to hand, and it is normal to find three or four different mortars on one elevation once you start scraping. No conservation area covers the village and only a handful of nearby buildings are listed, so most of those walls carry no heritage control, but the right mortar still matters to the brick.

Which matters, because the usual way of matching a mortar is to take a sample and copy it. Do that on a wall like this and you have a fair chance of copying somebody's 1975 patch rather than the wall itself. So the sample comes off the oldest sound original we can find, usually a sheltered joint where nothing has ever been touched, and it is checked against a second one elsewhere on the building before anything is mixed.

The second decision is what to do with the earlier repairs, and it is yours rather than ours. A sound lime patch can stay, and taking it out risks brick for nothing. A hard cement patch holding water in the wall should come out, whatever it looks like. A sound cement patch on a sheltered face is a genuine choice: leave it and the elevation reads in two colours, take it out and you are paying to remove something that is doing no harm. We put both options in the quote with the areas marked.

Who you are dealing with

The repointing firm, and who oversees the work

The firm is Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales under company number 15471719, and it is owned by Thomas Hannen. Thomas scrapes out a test joint on your wall himself before he writes a price. Before you book a visit in Lover, you can read our customers' Google reviews, word for word, on our reviews page.

We are 18.1 miles away at our Boscombe base and cover Lover, Redlynch, Landford, Nomansland, Whiteparish and Downton. For Lover the National Park Authority is the planning body and Wiltshire Council oversees building regulations. On Checkatrade a verified customer rated us 10 out of 10. Neither the site visit nor the itemised written quote is charged for.

Planning at a glance

Do you need planning permission in Lover?

Most repairs in Lover need no application at all. What decides whether a change to the outside of your house does is who the council is, whether a conservation area or a listing applies, and whether the place sits in a protected landscape.

The planning position in Lover, from council and national records.
Question In Lover
Who decides New Forest National Park Authority is the planning authority for Lover. New Forest National Park Authority's heritage pages set out what it controls.
Conservation area None covers Lover, so a like-for-like repair is ordinary maintenance.
Listed buildings Yes, there are listed buildings in and around Lover. If yours is one, work can need listed building consent.
Protected landscape Inside the New Forest National Park, where design is looked at more closely and permitted development rights are narrower.

Questions

Questions about repointing in Lover

Where do you take the mortar sample from?

Somewhere the weather and previous repairs have not reached: a sheltered joint under an overhang, behind a downpipe or on the lee side. We take more than one and compare, because on a wall this old a single sample can easily be somebody else's repair. What we are after is the sand, its colour and its grain.

Should the old cement patches come out at the same time?

It depends what they are doing. Cement that has cracked away from the brick and is holding water behind it comes out, because that is what takes the faces off. Sound cement on a sheltered elevation is a judgement about how the wall looks, not about the fabric. We mark both on the survey and price them separately.

Will new lime pointing match the old straight away?

No, and it should not. Fresh mortar reads lighter than mortar carrying eighty years of weathering, so a match is judged on how it will look once settled. That is what the trial panel is for: it goes up on your own wall, dries, and you look at it in daylight before an elevation is started.

Is our wall too far gone to point?

Very seldom: open joints look alarming and are mostly a mortar problem, and mortar is replaceable. What changes the answer is the brick: if more than about a third of the faces on an elevation have blown, you are cutting out brick as well as pointing, and that is a bigger decision.

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Find out what is actually in your joints

Thomas comes out, scrapes a few joints on every elevation, works out what the original mortar was and prices the work itemised. It costs you nothing.