Loft insulation in Sandleheath

Full depth over the joists, the eaves left open, and nothing to apply for before we start.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

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Nearly every loft around Sandleheath has something in it, and whether that layer stays or comes out is the first thing to settle. Usually it stays and is topped up to about 270mm of mineral wool. The eaves are left breathing, any boarding goes on legs, and the tank and pipes are wrapped. For the walls, see insulation in Sandleheath.

In Sandleheath it usually starts when somebody has been up for the boxes and had a proper look at what is underneath them. The wool is thinner than they remember. It stops a foot short of the outside wall. Half of it is pressed flat under a floor that went down in a hurry years ago. Sometimes it is worse and the material is wet, in which case nothing gets added until we know why.

So we go up into the Sandleheath loft before anything is priced. The depth gets measured rather than guessed at, we see whether it carries on over the wall plate, check that nobody has packed the eaves, and find out what the ceiling below is made of. You get photographs from up there and a written quote listing the clearance, the disposal, the depth, the trays, the hatch and the boarding one line at a time. The site visit costs you nothing and neither does the quote.

What is usually up there

Clearing out first, then building it back up

Mineral wool insulation laid between and over the ceiling joists in a loft (illustrative photo for loft insulation in Sandleheath)
Two layers, crossedThe second layer runs across the joists so the timber stops being a cold bridge. Illustrative photo.

Whatever is up there now. Most lofts in Sandleheath have had something laid in them already, and the state of it decides the first hour. Settled to half the thickness it started at. Compressed flat under a boarded floor. Patchy where somebody has been at the wiring.

Contaminated where birds have got in and left droppings, or simply missing for the last foot before the wall. None of that is worth keeping, so it is rolled, bagged at the hatch and carried out before a new roll is opened, and it leaves in the van. Covering a poor old layer with a good new one buries the trouble in the middle of the build up, where interstitial damp can sit for years without anybody seeing it.

What you are standing on. The ceiling under your feet is plasterboard at best, and on the older houses in Sandleheath it is lath and plaster, which will take no weight whatever. Crawl boards go down and move along with us, and nobody trusts a joist they have not looked at. Access is a single hatch from beginning to end, which makes the whole thing work at height, so the ladder is set and footed properly.

Depth, and the layer that runs the other way. With the deck clear, wool goes in between the joists and a second thickness is cross laid over the joists at ninety degrees to the first, so no timber is left proud to carry cold into the bedroom. Two layers, about 270mm all told, which is the figure Approved Document L sets for a loft being renovated. Nearly all of it is mineral wool, sold as glass wool or as rockwool, and both behave much the same once they are down. Rolls do the long clear runs, batts suit a roof chopped up by bracing, loose fill gets into places a roll cannot follow, and sheep wool is there if you would rather not have mineral fibre over your head. Depth is only the means. What you are buying is a lower U value across the ceiling, which carries a big share of a house's heat loss, and you notice it on the heating bill well before it shows on an EPC.

The one gap that stays empty. At the outside wall the insulation stops on the wall plate and goes no further. The air gap above it is the inlet for the whole roof, and once it is stuffed the roof has no way of clearing the moisture rising out of the house. Vent trays clip in to hold that channel open. From there cross ventilation moves the air over the top of the wool and out under the ridge, quicker where somebody has fitted a ridge vent. A breathable membrane will let a little moisture through as well. Old bitumen felt underlay lets none. A loft that stayed dry for thirty years can show condensation, wet material and black mould on the timbers inside one winter if the edges get packed, because the space you have just made colder is where the dew point now sits.

Tank, cables, lights and the way in. Everything that used to live in a mild loft now lives in a cold one, so the cold water tank and its pipework get lagging the same day. Cables come up on top of the wool rather than sitting buried in it, and any wiring stapled down out of sight gets looked at while it can be seen. Recessed lights and downlighters set into the ceiling below take fire rated covers, so no fitting ends up with wool heaped over it. Where the space earns its keep, loft legs raise the boarding above the finished work and nothing underneath gets squashed, with the loft ladder reset to meet the new platform height. The hatch is the last thing done: rigid board on the top face, a seal round the rebate, and the draught that has been running up your stairs all winter stops.

Where there is no loft floor. A room in a Sandleheath roof has sloping ceilings and dormer cheeks instead of a floor, so the work moves up to rafter level. The air path comes first, held clear above the board so the timbers can still dry. Then rigid board, PIR or Celotex, cut tight between the rafters, a further layer under them, and the room side closed with a taped vapour control layer. Multi-foil quilt is the answer where a ceiling can give up almost no depth.

How it runs

Laying loft insulation in a Sandleheath cottage or bungalow

Rigid insulation board fitted between the rafters in a loft (one of our own jobs, shown for loft insulation in Sandleheath)
Board where depth is shortRigid board earns its place where the headroom will not take quilt. Photo from one of our own jobs.

Thomas goes into your Sandleheath loft himself. He checks what is there and how deep, whether the eaves are clear, where the tank and pipes are, and whether there is condensation on the felt. The written quote lists the survey, clearing and bagging old material, the new mineral wool and its depth, keeping the eaves ventilated, the hatch and pipework, and disposal. The work then follows that price.

Bungalows make up a good share of the housing in Sandleheath, and their lofts are wide and low, so much of the work is done on knees near the eaves. Older cottages often have small hatches and no boards. Dust sheets go from the door to the hatch, rolls come in, old material goes out bagged, and the landing is vacuumed each day. If we find damp timber or buried wiring, you are sent a photo and a price before we touch it.

There is nothing to apply for. Work inside the roof is not development, which Planning Portal guidance on insulation confirms, and there is no conservation area over the village. New Forest District Council is the authority, not the National Park Authority. Building control applies if more than half of a roof is renovated, under regulation 23. Energy saving materials in a home are treated differently for VAT under HMRC VAT Notice 708/6.

Cost

What decides the price of topping up a loft here

A loft insulated at rafter level with the gable filled and a rooflight fitted (one of our own jobs, shown for loft insulation in Sandleheath)
At rafter levelA room in the roof is a different job from a cold loft floor. Photo from one of our own jobs.

No Sandleheath loft is priced per square metre. The floor is quick; the awkward edges take the time. Getting up there. A generous hatch on a landing is quick. The small trapdoor over the stairs found in many older cottages, or a low roof where you can only crawl, slows everything before a roll is opened.

What is already there. Thin, flattened or damp old wool has to be bagged and carried out through the house. Stored boxes are moved and put back, and any boards are lifted and refixed.

The roof structure. A post-war roof with trussed rafters and bracing is slower to lay across than an open older roof. Joist depth and spacing decide whether the first layer goes between and the rest over the top.

Eaves and pipes. Insulation stops short of the wall plate and the vents stay clear, or you get a wet roof. Pipes and the tank are lagged, and downlighters are boxed over. Approved Document L sets the depth the work should reach.

When quotes come in, check the finished depth, whether the old wool is removed first, and whether trays at the eaves, the hatch and pipe lagging are included.

If the loft is wet

Wet felt, damp insulation or black mould in the loft

Plasterboard taped and jointed on a lined loft wall (illustrative photo for loft insulation in Sandleheath)
Lined, then tapedWhere the loft becomes a room, the boarding and the joints come next. Illustrative photo.

Ring rather than use the form if the underside of the felt is dripping, mould is spreading along the rafters, or the insulation is wet. Moist air from the rooms below is condensing in a cold roof space, and it is the timbers that pay.

Keep the hatch shut, stop drying washing indoors, and do not add insulation. On the first visit we trace the moisture and check the eaves vents, clearing them if that is needed. On an old roof without a membrane it can also be a slipped slate letting rain in. Planned work runs Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm. If you do not get through, we ring you back as soon as possible.

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Worth knowing

Insulating the loft and converting it are not the same thing

The two are easily confused, and the words get used for each other. It is worth separating them, because the two jobs sit on opposite sides of a planning rule that catches this whole area.

Insulating the loft floor changes nothing about the building. There is no application, no extra bedroom, no change of use, and the only rule involved is the building control one about how deep it has to be. It is one of the simplest ways to make a cold house easier to heat, with no approval to wait for first.

Converting the loft into a room is different. Schemes that add a dwelling or overnight accommodation in this catchment, such as an annexe or a holiday let, run into the nutrient rules for the River Avon. A bedroom in the roof of your own house does not normally engage them, but a conversion still brings building control, stairs and fire safety. If your real problem is a cold house, not a shortage of bedrooms, insulating what you already have is quicker and cheaper. If you are converting anyway, tell us at the visit, because then the insulation goes in at rafter level as part of the conversion rather than on the floor you are about to build on.

Who you are dealing with

Who lays loft insulation around Sandleheath

We lay loft insulation in Sandleheath, Alderholt, Fordingbridge and the SP6 addresses round them. Planning and building control sit with New Forest District Council for Sandleheath and Fordingbridge, and with Dorset Council for Alderholt. Sandleheath is 14 miles north of our Boscombe base at 80a Wolverton Road.

The company is Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719. Thomas Hannen owns the business and goes up your loft ladder himself to price it. A Checkatrade customer, verified, rated us 10 out of 10. We do not charge for the visit or the itemised quote. Before you book a visit in Sandleheath, you can read our customers' Google reviews, word for word, on our reviews page.

Planning at a glance

Do you need planning permission in Sandleheath?

Most repairs in Sandleheath need no application at all. What decides whether a change to the outside of your house does is who the council is, whether a conservation area or a listing applies, and whether the place sits in a protected landscape.

The planning position in Sandleheath, from council and national records.
Question In Sandleheath
Who decides New Forest District Council is the planning authority for Sandleheath. The National Park boundary runs close by, and the Park's property map shows which side an address falls.
Conservation area None covers Sandleheath, so a like-for-like repair is ordinary maintenance.
Listed buildings Yes, Sandleheath has listed buildings. If yours is one, or stands in the grounds of one, work can need listed building consent.
Protected landscape No National Park or National Landscape covers Sandleheath.

Questions

Questions about loft insulation in Sandleheath

Is the old insulation worth keeping?

Sometimes. If it is dry, even and still lofted we can cross lay over it and count the depth. If it has settled, compressed or been contaminated with droppings, it comes out and leaves with us, and we say which at the survey rather than on the morning.

How deep does it need to go?

Roughly 270mm all in: it goes down as two layers and the top one runs across the joists, because a single layer stopping level with the timber leaves every joist carrying cold into the rooms below.

Which council covers these addresses?

New Forest District Council, not the National Park Authority, which catches people out because neighbouring villages are the other way round. Either way, insulation inside a roof is not development at all, so it needs no application and uses up none of your permitted development.

How long does a loft take?

A day covers most of them. What pushes it out is old material to bag, a floor to lift and re-lay, or a truss roof where every corner has to be reached from the middle.

What happens to the water tank up there?

It gets lagging, and so does the pipework running to it. A loft is a good deal colder once the ceiling below is insulated, and an unlagged tank in a cold loft is the usual reason people meet a burst in January.

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We come out, see what is up there and put the depth, the ventilation and the boarding in writing. The visit and the quote are free.