Repointing Victorian brickwork in Lyndhurst

Hand raking, a lime matched to the original sand, and the bands and arches given their own mix and their own joint width.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

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Your joints are due when they have weathered back far enough to take a finger, powder under a key, or let damp through after rain. Much of Lyndhurst is later nineteenth century solid brick that has to keep breathing, so the job is hand raking and a matched lime mix, and the width and profile of the joint decide whether the repair shows. Cracked or spalled bricks are work for a bricklayer, priced on their own.

The usual sign on a Lyndhurst house is pointing that has weathered back far enough to take a finger, usually worst high on a gable or a stack where nobody looks. About a band of coloured brickwork, a moulded string course or an arch over a window where the faces have started to break away. And about a shared stack on a terrace or a converted house that keeps dropping sand and grit into the gutter.

We survey the whole Lyndhurst building rather than the elevation you have spotted, scrape joints at several heights, and get close enough to the decorative work to see what it was originally bedded in, because it is rarely the same as the field wall. You get it back in writing, elevation by elevation, with the arches and the bands as their own lines. If the wall belongs to a block rather than to you, the freeholder is the one who instructs the work and leaseholders normally get a consultation first under section 20 of the Landlord and Tenant Act 1985, so it is worth asking where that stands before anybody collects prices. The visit and the quote are free.

The work

The pointing work on Lyndhurst brickwork

Repointing a brick wall by hand, mortar being struck into a raked-out joint (illustrative photo for repointing in Lyndhurst)
Struck by handOne joint at a time, filled and struck so the face sheds water. Illustrative photo.

Solid Victorian and Edwardian walls. No cavity behind the face, so the wall gets rid of water by letting it evaporate out of the joint, and the mortar has to stay softer and more open than the brick for that to happen.

On a Lyndhurst wall we rake out by hand to a depth of about twice the joint width, perpends as well as beds, damp the joints down, and point back in an NHL lime or a lime putty gauged against a sample of the original, with the sand chosen for grain and colour. Where an original weather struck finish survives we put that back and do not default to a bucket handle profile because it is faster to strike.

Bands, string courses and gauged arches. A lot of the brickwork in Lyndhurst carries detail: coloured banding through an elevation, corbelling under the eaves, rubbed and gauged arches over the windows set in joints only a couple of millimetres thick. That work was bedded in a fine, fat lime with almost no coarse sand in it, which is the only way a joint that thin is possible. It gets its own mix and its own joint width, and it is pointed after the field wall, never in the same pass.

Cement pointing on soft brick. Where a Lyndhurst wall was repointed in sand and cement some decades ago, the water that used to leave through the joint leaves through the face instead, so the joints look sound while the bricks are spalling. Cutting that back out is slow hand work with a chisel and a hacksaw blade, and a disc cutter or an angle grinder never goes near it: the cut widens the joint permanently and takes the arris off the brick either side.

Faces that have gone, and the reason they went. Blown faces come out whole and matched bricks go in, judged against a sample held on the wall and a trial panel you look at dry. They go worst low down on the weather side and where ground has been built up over the damp proof course, and pointing over that only buys a couple of winters, so we say where the cause is levels or a broken gully rather than mortar.

Tall and shared stacks. Stacks in Lyndhurst are tall, frequently shared between two houses, and exposed on every side with a cold flue up the middle, so their joints go friable long before the walls do. Repointing above the roof line, rebedding pots and renewing cracked flaunching is regular work, and where the stack is shared the neighbour needs to be in the conversation before a platform is booked.

Boundary walls to the road. Lyndhurst brick walls with piers and a coping, wet from both faces with no roof over them. The coping is what saves one, so it gets rebedded and the top courses pointed before anybody touches the face of the wall.

How it runs

Repointing Victorian brick in lime, joint by joint

Raked-out joints on a red brick pier being filled with fresh mortar (one of our own jobs, shown for repointing in Lyndhurst)
Raked back firstDepth before filling. A disc widens the joint and takes the arris off. Photo from one of our own jobs.

Thomas looks at each elevation himself: how deep the joints have gone, the state of the brick faces, and what earlier repairs were done with. On Lyndhurst's older houses the original mortar is lime, and too often it has been patched with hard cement that is now pulling the faces off the bricks. The quote splits out scaffold or access, raking out, the lime mix, the area of each face, bricks to replace, and taking the old mortar away.

Joints are cut back by hand to sound mortar, brushed and damped, then packed with a lime mortar matched in colour and texture and finished to the profile the house had. Lime is kept damp and shaded from sun, rain and frost while it cures, so we will not point in a hard frost. Every day ends with the site swept, and the old mortar leaves with us. If raking out shows bricks that need replacing, you are shown a photograph and given a price first.

A like for like repoint is repair, so there is no application and nothing for building control. Planning here is decided by the New Forest National Park Authority, and the church and The Queen's House are among the listed buildings in the parish. On a listed building the mortar mix and joint profile are part of what consent covers, and in a conservation area a different mortar colour or joint shape on a street elevation alters appearance rather than repairing it. The Authority's interactive property map tells you what applies to your address.

Cost

Lime, depth and height: what a repoint costs

Brick corner with a moulded plinth course, mortar matched to the original work (illustrative photo for repointing in Lyndhurst)
Matched, not guessedColour, sand and joint profile picked up from what is already there. Illustrative photo.

We never price by the square metre, because the area says little until someone has looked closely at the joints. Getting the old out. Soft lime mortar rakes out fairly quickly. Hard cement from an old repair has to be cut out with great care, or it takes the brick edges with it, and that is slow.

The right mix. On most pre-1919 walls in Lyndhurst, lime is the answer. It is slower to mix and lay, and it needs looking after while it cures, but it lets the wall dry out. Cement on soft brick traps water, and the faces spall away in frost.

How much has spalled. Every brick that has lost its face has to be cut out and replaced or turned, and matching old brick can mean hunting down reclaimed stock.

Getting to it. A frontage on the pavement in the middle of Lyndhurst, a rear return behind a garden and a stack shared by two houses three storeys up are different set ups. A chimney or gable needs scaffold; a garden wall does not. The work at height rules make that its own line.

Ask anyone else how deep they rake and with what, whether the lime mix has been matched to yours, and whether the scaffold is included.

If water is getting in

Penetrating damp through open joints

Stone gable with the joints repointed in a lime mortar (illustrative photo for repointing in Lyndhurst)
Stone wants limeOn rubble stone the mortar is most of the surface, and it has to breathe. Illustrative photo.

A damp patch high on an inside wall after a spell of driving rain usually means the joints outside have washed out, and on a chimney the water gets at the flashings too. A shared stack dropping mortar into the gutter is another warning.

Move things away from the wet wall and let the room air. Phone instead of filling in the form. We come and look, sheet the face or lime-patch the worst joints as a stopgap if the weather is against us, and give you a price once the brickwork is dry enough to show what is sound. Repointing is booked Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm. When a call is missed, we return it as soon as we are able.

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Worth knowing

The bands and the arches are not the same job as the wall

A good deal of the brickwork here is more ambitious than it looks from the pavement. Bands of a different coloured brick running through an elevation, corbelled detail under the eaves, and gauged arches over the windows where the bricks were rubbed to shape and set in a joint barely thicker than a pencil line.

None of that was laid in the mortar used for the wall around it. Gauged work was bedded in a fine, fat lime with the coarse sand screened out of it, precisely so the joint could be that thin.

Point a whole elevation in one sanded mix at the width that suits the field brickwork and the detail goes. The arch stops reading as an arch and becomes a row of bricks with grey lines through it, and a crisp band turns into a blur. In a conservation area that is also a change of appearance on a street elevation, which is exactly what the designation is there to control. So on a building carrying any of it we price two mixes and two joint widths, the field wall and the detail, and the detail is a separate line because it is a slower day. It is the difference between a repair you stop noticing and one you see every time you come up the path. Ask anyone quoting you whether the arches and the bands are included at the same rate as the wall. If they are, nobody has looked at them.

Who you are dealing with

Who repoints walls in and around the village

Lyndhurst is 14.9 miles from where we are based in Boscombe. Repointing work takes us round the village, Emery Down, Bank, Minstead, Brockenhurst and the other SO43 villages, where the New Forest National Park Authority is the planning body.

You are dealing with Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719. Thomas Hannen, whose business it is, looks at the wall and prices every repointing job himself. A verified Checkatrade customer rated us 10 out of 10. There is nothing to pay for the visit or for the itemised written quote. Before you book a visit in Lyndhurst, you can read our customers' Google reviews, word for word, on our reviews page.

Planning at a glance

Do you need planning permission in Lyndhurst?

Most repairs in Lyndhurst need no application at all. What decides whether a change to the outside of your house does is who the council is, whether a conservation area or a listing applies, and whether the place sits in a protected landscape.

The planning position in Lyndhurst, from council and national records.
Question In Lyndhurst
Who decides New Forest National Park Authority is the planning authority for Lyndhurst. New Forest National Park Authority's heritage pages set out what it controls.
Conservation area Yes: Lyndhurst Conservation Area and Swan Green Conservation Area. They cover parts of Lyndhurst, so check whether your street is inside one.
Listed buildings Yes, there are listed buildings in and around Lyndhurst. If yours is one, work can need listed building consent.
Protected landscape Inside the New Forest National Park, where design is looked at more closely and permitted development rights are narrower.

Questions

Questions about repointing in Lyndhurst

Do the arches over our windows need a different mortar from the wall?

Almost always, yes. Gauged and rubbed arch work was set in a fine lime with the coarse sand taken out, which is how the joints ended up so thin. Filling those with the sanded mix used on the field wall widens them and the arch stops reading as one. We price the detail separately and point it after the wall around it.

Our house is in flats. Who arranges repointing?

The freeholder, because the external walls belong to the building, not to any one flat. There is also no sensible way to point one flat's share of an elevation, so it is priced as a whole face. Leaseholders are usually consulted on major works first, so it is worth finding out where that has got to before quotes are collected.

The original joints are weather struck. Do you have to put that back?

Where it survives, yes, we match it. A weather struck joint is cut back at the top and left proud at the bottom so it throws water clear, and it is part of how the elevation reads. Swapping it for a bucket handle finish because that is quicker to strike changes the look of the wall, which inside a conservation area is the thing that gets noticed.

How do you reach a stack shared with next door?

With a scaffold and with the neighbour's agreement, both sorted before anything is booked. A shared stack usually means shared access and often a shared bill, so it is worth the two of you having the conversation early. We are happy to price the whole stack and set it out so each side can see what belongs to them.

Is a lime mix strong enough for a Victorian wall?

It is what the wall was built with, and strength is not the point. The mortar is meant to be the weaker part, so that water and any movement are taken by the joint rather than by the brick. A mix stronger than the brick does not make the wall stronger, it just moves the damage from the mortar, where it is cheap to fix, into the brick, where it is not.

Free quote

Get the elevation and the detail priced separately

Thomas comes out, scrapes the joints, looks properly at the arches and banding and puts the price in writing, itemised, at no cost to you.