Insulation in Walhampton and Portmore

Loft depth and eaves ventilation done properly on older roofs, rafter level work in rooms under the slope, and honest advice on solid walls.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

A lot of the older houses around Walhampton and Portmore have solid walls with no cavity in them, so there is nothing to fill and the sensible order of work is the loft, then the draughts, then the walls as a separate decision. On the newer houses it is usually a straight top-up.

People here ring us about three things. An old cottage or estate house that eats oil or electricity and never feels warm, where somebody has already suggested filling walls that have no cavity to fill. A bedroom tucked up under the slope of the roof that is cold in winter and airless in summer. And a top floor flat with a roof space above the ceiling that belongs to the building rather than to the flat.

We come out and get into the roof before anybody talks about money, because on old buildings what you can see from the ground tells you very little. The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. If the right answer is to leave a wall alone and spend the money on depth overhead and draught proofing, we will say so.

The work

More depth in an unventilated roof makes it worse

Celotex rigid insulation boards fitted between roof rafters
Boards between raftersCut tight, with the ventilation gap kept clear behind.

The loft, wherever there is one to work in. On the later houses it is a top-up: repair what is down, close the gaps at the ends of the runs, fit vent trays at the eaves, then lay eco roll across the joists at right angles, between and over, to a finished depth of around 270mm, which is what the 0.16 u-value in Approved Document L expects of a renovated roof. Better than a quarter of the homes here predate 1919, and on an old cottage the loft is often small, shallow and reached through a hatch the size of a tea tray, so the wool is cut and carried in piece by piece rather than rolled out.

Cottages and estate cottages here tend to sit with the roof coming down close to the wall head, so there is very little room over the wall plate. Filling that gap with wool blocks the airflow the Approved Document F standard expects and turns a dry roof space into a condensation problem within a couple of winters. Trays go in first and the insulation runs up to them, not into them. Where there is genuinely no ventilation path at all, we say so before laying anything, because more depth in an unventilated roof makes matters worse.

Plenty of the older buildings here have a room in the roof, or an outbuilding that has become one. That is rafter level work: rigid PIR board such as Celotex cut tight between and under the rafters with a clear ventilation gap above, a vapour control layer before boarding, and the dormer cheeks and the voids behind the dwarf walls done at the same time. Where the covering is coming off anyway, a warm roof built from above is the better job on an old building because it leaves the ceilings and the plaster alone. If the roof is thatched, that is a specialist trade and not us, and we will tell you that on the phone rather than at the end of a visit.

Flats, and the roof space you do not own. Getting on for a third of the homes around here are flats, and if you are on the top floor the loft above your ceiling normally belongs to the building. The freeholder or managing agent has to agree in writing before anything happens, and where the building pays and it is recharged, section 20 of the Landlord and Tenant Act 1985 sets out the consultation leaseholders are owed. We will quote in a form an agent can put to the other leaseholders.

Later houses have cavity walls that may already be filled, which a borescope settles in minutes. Older solid walls take internal wall insulation, or external wall insulation, EWI, where the elevation allows it. Then the details that decide whether the rest works: a boarded, draught sealed hatch, storage decking lifted and put back on legs so nothing is compressed, lagging on the tank and pipework, and covers over downlighters.

How it runs

From your call to a written price

Mineral wool insulation being pushed into place between timber studs on an internal wall
Insulating a wallMineral wool cut to a friction fit, so there is no gap at the edge.

The quote is itemised: survey, clearing, the material and its depth, ventilation works and disposal on separate lines.

Loft work and internal linings need no planning permission. Outside is different here, because this is National Park territory and Forest South East is a conservation area, so anything that changes the look of an elevation, external insulation included, is checked first. National Park heritage and conservation guidance sets out the approach and the National Park Authority's interactive property map tells you what applies to your address, while Planning Portal guidance on insulation covers the general position. Building control applies either way: regulation 23 of the Building Regulations means renovating more than half of a thermal element brings the whole element up to standard.

Cost

What decides the price of an insulation job

Loft room dry-lined and taped between and under the rafters, with a rooflight above
A loft, lined and tapedInsulated between and under the rafters, then boarded and taped.

No rate per square metre. An estate cottage with a small hatch and a shallow loft, a converted outbuilding with the roof space already lined, and a top floor flat reached from a communal landing are three different jobs before any material is ordered. Old material to bag and take away, and storage to move and put back, come before anything new goes down, and Approved Document L sets what the work has to reach. Comparing quotes, ask what depth is being laid, whether the old material is removed or covered, and whether the hatch and pipework are included.

If it is urgent

Damp, condensation or a room you cannot heat

Ring rather than use the form. Condensation dripping in the loft, mould that keeps coming back, or a room that will not hold heat gets looked at quickly. Insulating a roof space that cannot breathe makes it worse, so the first visit settles which it is. If the mould is on a bedroom ceiling under the slope, say so, because on the older roofs here that is usually ventilation.

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Worth knowing

Old walls here were built to dry outwards, and that decides the method

Loft conversion insulated with foil-faced boards and mineral wool around a Velux window
Around a rooflightThe awkward edges are where the heat actually goes.

More than a quarter of the housing around Walhampton and Portmore predates 1919, and the listed entries near here are concentrated on the Walhampton estate rather than in the ordinary housing. A wall of that age is solid, usually brick or brick with render, with no cavity in it at all. It was never meant to keep water out by being sealed.

It takes rain in on the outside face, holds it, and dries out again through both faces when the weather turns. That is the whole reason a modern approach can go badly wrong on these buildings: put a sealed, foil faced board hard against the inside of a wall like that and you stop it drying inwards, and the moisture goes into the plaster, the skirtings and the ends of the floor joists instead.

So on an old wall we do it differently. A breathable build-up, wood fibre or a lime based system rather than a plastic faced board, lets the wall carry on doing what it has always done while still cutting the heat loss. The joist ends and the reveals get thought about before anything is fixed, because that is where trouble shows first.

And the order matters more than the product: get the loft to full depth, seal the hatch, deal with the draughts round doors, floors and the old chimney openings, and only then decide whether a wall is worth lining. That is not us talking you out of work. It is that on a house of this age, the loft is cheap and reversible and a wall is neither, and we would rather you spent the first money where it cannot do any harm.

Who you are dealing with

A local firm you can check

We cover Walhampton, Portmore, Boldre, Pilley and the SO41 addresses around Lymington, with the New Forest National Park Authority as the planning authority. Send the postcode if you want to be sure. Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719, which you can look up in a minute. Thomas Hannen's business, and he is the one who comes out to price the job, not a salesman. A verified customer's 10 out of 10 on Checkatrade. The visit and the written quote are both free.

Questions

Walhampton and Portmore questions we get asked

We are in Forest South East. Does that block insulation work?

Not in the loft. Forest South East is about what the building looks like from outside, and material laid over a ceiling changes nothing anybody can see. The moment the work shows it is a different matter: cladding a wall, swapping the covering, cutting a rooflight into a slope facing the lane. Those go to the New Forest National Park Authority rather than to a district council, and they get judged on appearance.

Over a quarter of homes here predate 1919. Does that limit the options?

It limits what goes on the walls more than what goes in the loft. With 26.9% of the stock older than 1919, much of it is solid walled and has to be able to dry outwards, so foil faced board stuck on the inside face is the wrong answer. Breathable build ups and lime finishes suit that fabric. The roof space is the simpler and usually the better first move.

Nearly a third of housing here is flats. Who signs off the work?

The freeholder, in most cases. At 31.5% flats, a lot of addresses around Walhampton and Portmore are leasehold, and the void above a top floor flat is normally retained by the freeholder rather than demised with the lease. The managing agent instructs the work, not the resident. Thomas will still come and look and put the written quote in your name so you have something to send them.

Would converting the roof space run into the Solent nutrient position?

It can. A conversion that creates a bedroom adds overnight accommodation, and that is the trigger for the nutrient neutrality position covering Solent Maritime and the Southampton Water designations. Insulating the space you already have adds no accommodation and never engages it. The National Park will tell you where you stand at the enquiry stage, and it is worth asking that before anybody draws anything.

Does the sea being this close change what you use up there?

Not the quilt, which sits inside and stays dry. What the position changes is the metal and the edges. At 3.8km from the water, fixings, grilles and eaves trays on the exposed side give up long before anything on the sheltered side, and driven rain works at the openings and the verges rather than the middle of a slope. So that elevation is the one we look at first.

Free quote

Get someone in the loft before you decide

Free site visit around Walhampton, Portmore and Boldre, and a written itemised quote that separates the depth, the ventilation work and any wall lining.