Roofing in Thorney Hill

Storm damage, re-fixing, dry ridge and verge, re-covers, flat roofs and leadwork at Thorney Hill and across BH23.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

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Thorney Hill stands high and open with the forest on its weather side, so the fixing schedule matters more here than the tile does. A roof laid before 2015 was fixed to a weaker rule than the one in force now, and on this site that shows.

The hamlet sits on the rise above Bransgore, houses strung along the road with the commons and open forest running away from the back gardens. Almost every call is the same shape: a windy night, then a tile on the lawn, a gap in the ridge line, or water on a ceiling by morning. If that water is still coming through after a blow off the forest, ring 07435 839745 and keep clear of anything left hanging at the verge.

What follows is a proper look, not a guess from the drive. We get on the roof, put our head into the loft, and photograph the covering, the battens, the underlay and the rafter feet. Then you get a straight answer: a repair that will hold, edge and fixing work that buys years, or a covering that is finished. The site visit and the written itemised quote are both free.

The work

The corners and verges are where a gale starts

Hipped roof part way through a re-tile with breathable membrane and new treated battens (one of our own jobs, shown for roofing in Thorney Hill)
Membrane and battensThe part nobody sees, and the part that decides how long it lasts. Photo from one of our own jobs.

Re-fixing the perimeter zone is the job this hamlet needs most. Wind does not lift a roof in the middle, it gets under the edges and the corners, and the most exposed elevation here faces south west.

The code of practice, BS 5534, was tightened in 2014 so that a site like this now needs mechanical fixing well in from the verge and the eaves rather than a clip here and there. Where a roof predates that, we clip out the whole perimeter zone properly, for a fraction of what losing a slope costs. Mortar bedding on an exposed roof cracks, lets go and takes the tile with it, so off it comes and a dry ridge and dry verge go back screwed down on a ventilated roll, which is both stronger in wind and vents the ridge line as it goes.

Storm damage and repairs. Slipped, cracked and missing tiles after a blow, a ridge tile gone, a verge stripped back along its length, and the leak that follows. On the post-war houses in Thorney Hill it is concrete tile, nearly all of it interlocking, and the covering is generally in better condition than whatever is holding it down. Older cottages on the green carry plain tile, clay tile and a little natural slate on battens with no sarking under them. Thatch is a different trade and we say so before you ask: we tile and flash up to it. When the nails have gone, the batten ends are soft and the underlay has torn away at the eaves, the covering comes off, wet rafter feet come out, and it goes back on breathable membrane and treated battens with a matched tile, fixed to today's schedule, not the one it was first laid to. If it is one slipped slate, a loose hip tile or a single leak at the chimney, roof repairs in Thorney Hill covers finding and mending that one fault.

Garages, rear extensions, porches and dormers go in felt, GRP fibreglass or EPDM rubber, and the deck sets the life of all three, so it comes first, then the falls, the upstands and the outlet. On an exposed roof the flashings matter twice over: chimney soakers, back gutters, valleys and abutments go back in code rated lead, cut and clipped at the free edge so wind cannot get a grip on it. Oak and holly leaf off the forest side fills gutters and valleys every autumn, and on ground that shrinks and swells, where that water ends up beside a foundation is a structural question rather than only a damp one. While a covering is off, insulation and eaves ventilation cost a fraction of what they cost later, and Approved Document L sets the standard a renovated roof should reach.

How it runs

Re-roofing a house on the forest edge, start to finish

Ring with what the roof is doing and what it is. Homes at Thorney Hill run from post-war houses and bungalows under concrete tiles to older brick cottages under clay tile or slate. Thomas comes out, looks along the ridge, the verges and any valleys, and prices it himself.

The written quote itemises the scaffold, stripping, the new tiles or slates, breathable membrane and battens, lead flashing at the chimney and abutments, dry fixed ridge and verge, and disposal. Plots here usually have room for the scaffold and a lorry on the drive, so the real question is wind. The south west slope takes weather straight off open heath, so we only open up as much as can be membraned and battened before the forecast turns. Tiles are loaded out on the scaffold, the lawn is picked clear of debris each evening, and the skip leaves when we do. Rotten rafters or a failed wall plate get photographed and priced for you before any more is stripped.

The New Forest National Park Authority handles planning here, and New Forest District Council building control. Thorney Hill has no conservation area. Repairing the roof, or re-covering an unlisted house in matching tiles, is within householder permitted development, as the Planning Portal guidance sets out, but a dormer is not permitted development on National Park land. A handful of buildings are listed, so we check the National Park Authority's property map before pricing.

Cost

What pushes a roof price up or down out here

GRP flat roof with three rooflights, formed upstands and a fall running to the outlet (one of our own jobs, shown for roofing in Thorney Hill)
A flat roof in GRPRooflights set in, upstands formed, falls running to the outlet. Photo from one of our own jobs.

No rate per square metre works for a roof in this spot, because the wind and what is under the tiles decide more than the area does.

Exposure. The settlement sits on open ground at the edge of the forest, with the worst weather from the south west. An exposed scaffold needs more ties and often debris netting, and it stands longer because a strip cannot be opened on a bad forecast, so it is priced by the days it is booked as well as its size. Work at height rules are the reason it is itemised separately.

Fixing to today's standard. Concrete tiles on older roofs were often nailed only every few courses. A re-cover fixes every tile and mechanically fixes the ridge and verge to the tiling code of practice, which takes more fixings and more time than the roof it replaces.

Under the tiles. Older roofs usually have bitumen felt that has sagged or perished at the eaves, so a re-roof brings a breathable membrane and new battens.

Trees. Houses set among trees collect debris in valleys and gutters, and moss holds water on the tiles, so a valley relined in lead is priced on its own.

Ask any quote what code of lead goes on the chimney, whether every tile is mechanically fixed, and who pays for the skip.

If it is leaking now

Tiles off after a gale, or water getting in

Finished flat profile tiled roof seen along the slope from the scaffold, with new fascia and gutter (illustrative photo for roofing in Thorney Hill)
The finished coveringClean courses, new fascia and the gutter running true. Illustrative photo.

If water is coming in, or tiles or a ridge have come off in a south westerly, ring us. The form can wait. Before we get there, look from the garden along the ridge and the gable verges for a gap, and check the lawn for fallen tiles, because an exposed roof goes at the edges first.

Keep clear of anything hanging. The first visit makes it safe, with loose tiles taken off and the gap sheeted or battened over. Scheduled work runs Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm. For a leak, phone, and if nobody picks up we will ring back as soon as we can.

Call now: 07435 839745

Worth knowing

High, open, and with the forest on the weather side

Newly re-covered hipped roof with clear tile laps and gutters (one of our own jobs, shown for roofing in Thorney Hill)
A finished re-coverClear laps, clean verges, gutters running as they should. Photo from one of our own jobs.

Thorney Hill is on the rise, with the exposed elevation facing south west and open commons and forest rather than other houses between the wind and your roof. Nothing upwind slows it down, and in practice that is the difference between a roof that shrugs off a gale and one that loses its verge.

The consequence is that fixing beats covering. Wind gets under the edge and the corner and peels inward, so the money is best spent on the perimeter: a mechanically fixed ridge and verge, clips carried well in from the edges rather than stopped at the last course, and lead clipped at its free edge. If you are being priced for a re-cover, ask which fixing schedule it is laid to and how far in the clips go. Two quotes for the same tile on this hill can be two very different roofs.

Who you are dealing with

Your roofer for Thorney Hill and Holmsley

Thorney Hill lies 6.8 miles out from 80a Wolverton Road, Boscombe, our base. We cover it along with Holmsley, Bransgore, Burley and the BH23 lanes on that side of the forest. Planning sits with the New Forest National Park Authority, and building regulations with New Forest District Council.

The company behind this page is Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719. The owner is Thomas Hannen, and he comes out and prices the roof himself. Checkatrade carries a verified customer's score for us of 10 out of 10. The visit is free, and you pay nothing for the itemised written quote. Before you book a visit in Thorney Hill, you can read our customers' Google reviews, word for word, on our reviews page.

Planning at a glance

Do you need planning permission in Thorney Hill?

Most repairs in Thorney Hill need no application at all. What decides whether a change to the outside of your house does is who the council is, whether a conservation area or a listing applies, and whether the place sits in a protected landscape.

The planning position in Thorney Hill, from council and national records.
Question In Thorney Hill
Who decides New Forest National Park Authority is the planning authority for Thorney Hill. New Forest National Park Authority's heritage pages set out what it controls.
Conservation area None covers Thorney Hill, so a like-for-like repair is ordinary maintenance.
Listed buildings Yes, there are listed buildings in and around Thorney Hill. If yours is one, work can need listed building consent.
Protected landscape Inside the New Forest National Park, where design is looked at more closely and permitted development rights are narrower.

Questions

Questions about roofing in Thorney Hill

Is the National Park the authority here, not the district council?

The New Forest National Park Authority is the planning authority for Thorney Hill, so applications and any pre application questions go there, not to a district office. It matters because the park applies design scrutiny to whatever is visible in the landscape, which reaches a good deal further than a village boundary would. Repairs and like for like re-covering are still maintenance and need nothing submitted to anyone.

My house stands in its own plot. Can you keep off the road?

Usually. A house or bungalow standing in its own plot tends to have ground on at least two sides to stand a scaffold, park the van and stack tiles without touching the highway. We walk the route in first even so, because soft verges and a loaded lorry do not mix and the ruts would be yours to look at.

Which side of the roof takes the weather here?

South west, and that is where the wear turns up first. Driven rain gets under edges and into openings rather than attacking the middle of a slope, so on that face the verge pointing, the ridge ends and the flashings around anything passing through the roof are first to let go. When we survey, that elevation gets looked at hardest and it often sets the order the work is done in.

Several roofs in the lane are losing verge mortar. Why?

Because older verges were usually bedded in sand and cement, and houses built together share the same detail. Years of movement crack that bedding and the wind then works into the gap. A mechanically fixed dry verge ends the cycle without a full re-cover.

Hardly anything here is listed. Do I still need to ask?

Listing is rare at Thorney Hill, three entries in total with the Church of All Saints among them, and no conservation area covers the settlement. The park takes its place. Anything visible carries design weight, so a change of material is worth raising before it is ordered, even though a matching re-cover is not. For most callers here nothing has to be applied for at all.

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