Plastering at Thorney Hill

Walls sounded and the damp worked out before anything is priced, then one written itemised quote for the repair and the finish.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

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Before anybody prices plastering at Thorney Hill, the wall has to be dry and the reason it went wet has to be known. Plenty of walls out here are sound plaster with a water problem behind them, and a fresh skim on one of those is money you spend twice.

At Thorney Hill it is usually a ceiling first, then a wall on the weather side. A ceiling has cracked, sagged or started to shed, often in a bungalow where there is nothing above it but a cold loft. A wall has blown, gone soft or lifted the paper away, usually on the weather side of the house. Or a room is being decorated, the walls have had one coat too many and every light fitting shows a ripple, and somebody has said it needs skimming properly, not filling again.

So the survey comes first and it takes longer here than it does in town. We knock every wall and ceiling, take a moisture reading where anything looks suspect, and work out whether we are looking at condensation, water getting in from outside, or plaster that has simply given up. Then the repair and the finish go on one itemised written price. The visit and the quote cost you nothing.

The work

If a wall answers dead, leave it alone

Freshly plastered lounge with a formed archway, walls and ceiling skimmed and drying (one of our own jobs, shown for plastering in Thorney Hill)
Skimmed and dryingTwo passes of finish off the trowel, left to dry properly. Photo from one of our own jobs.

If a wall answers dead, leave it alone. Four homes in ten here went up between the war and the early eighties, nearly all of them built the same way: a block inner leaf, a float coat straightened onto it, a gypsum finish over that.

Fifty years later the plaster is usually still stuck fast and what has failed is the surface, buried under textured paper, gloss and roller marks. Dust sheets go down and the surface is prepared and sealed with PVA where it is dusty, then those walls take two passes of finish coat, trowelled flat, one room at a time so you can carry on living in the rest of the house, with a mist coat over the new work before you paint. If a wall answers dead when we knock it, we will tell you to leave it alone, and we will not sell you a strip out. Where one has let go it comes off to the block for a backing coat first, browning or hardwall where the block pulls, bonding on a dense painted face.

A fifth of the homes in Thorney Hill are bungalows, so their ceilings sit straight under a cold loft, with no heated bedroom above. That is where sagging board, stained joints and cracks along the plasterboard edges show first, and it is why a ceiling here often needs the loft looked at before the trowel comes out. Most of the time overboarding and skimming beats pulling the old ceiling down, and lightly patterned artex can be sealed and skimmed flat, though anything from before the mid-1980s gets tested before it is scraped or sanded.

Roughly a fifth of the housing predates 1919, which means solid walls, lime plaster and often a lath ceiling. Those walls get rid of water through their own face, so a cement backing coat or a gypsum skim over one traps it and the finish blows again within a couple of winters. We keep the whole build-up breathable, patch in lime where lime is what is there. Later houses, extensions and loft rooms are plasterboard instead: on dot and dab or screwed to a stud, then tape and joint or a skim, with repairs skimmed wide enough that low winter light never picks the patch out.

Render on the weather side. Out here the wind and rain come off the open ground from the southwest, so one side of the house takes far more water than the rest and that is the side where a rigid sand and cement render crazes, drums and lets water sit behind it. Where it has gone, the honest choice is a like-for-like patch or a strip back to the masonry and a proper system: a scratch coat, a mesh reinforced basecoat, a primer and a silicone thin coat topcoat. Pebbledash comes off harder than anyone expects, so it is its own line on the quote, and a bell cast bead at the base throws water clear of the wall below. For the outside walls, see rendering in Thorney Hill.

How it runs

Replastering rooms in bungalows and cottages

Tell us what has happened: a ceiling crazed with cracks, a wall that has blown where water got in, or a room stripped back for rewiring. Most homes at Thorney Hill are post-war bungalows and detached houses with plasterboard ceilings and gypsum on block or brick, with some older cottages in lime. Thomas visits, knocks along each wall to find the hollow patches, and prices the work himself. That price covers the job through to the last coat.

The quote is itemised: preparation, hacking off, the backing coat, beads, the skim, making good, and disposal. Carpets and floors are sheeted and doorways taped up first, and the mixer and skip usually fit on the drive. Rubble is bagged and removed each day. Should a ceiling be looser than it looked, we stop, photograph it, and give you a figure.

Thorney Hill is inside the New Forest National Park, so planning sits with the Authority, and you can look your address up on its interactive property map. A change of outside finish is a change of appearance it takes an interest in, and Planning Portal guidance on external walls sets out the national position. On a listed building, consent covers internal plaster too, as its heritage and conservation guidance explains. Taking the plaster off most of an outside wall back to bare block is the point at which Approved Document L expects you to consider insulating it.

Cost

What decides the price of plastering a room

Plasterboarded media wall skimmed ready for decoration, with a recess for a television and an inset fire (one of our own jobs, shown for plastering in Thorney Hill)
A media wall, skimmedBoarded, taped and skimmed, ready for the decorator. Photo from one of our own jobs.

Two rooms of equal size can take very different time, depending on what the old plaster is stuck to. Skim or start again. A sound wall only wants a skim. One where the backing coat has blown is hacked off and floated first, and that takes far longer.

Ceilings. Ceilings in houses of this era are plasterboard that often just wants the joints taped and a skim. Where there is Artex, it is skimmed over or boarded rather than scraped, because older textured coatings can contain asbestos and are tested first.

Corners and reveals. A room with coving, deep reveals and a chimney breast has far more corners to bead than a plain box.

Access and parking. Around Thorney Hill that is usually a bungalow with everything on one level and room on the drive for a mixer, or a detached house behind a hedge where the van stands on the verge. Outside, a tower or a scaffold is a priced line under the work at height rules.

Check with anyone else quoting that blown patches will be cut out and not just skimmed, that Artex will be tested, and that beads and making good are priced in.

If it has come down

A ceiling sagging or damp spreading on a wall

Chimney breast freshly plastered above a fireplace, dried out and ready for decorating (illustrative photo for plastering in Thorney Hill)
A chimney breast, skimmedCut back, floated out and skimmed, ready for the decorator. Illustrative photo.

A ceiling that has cracked and dropped, plaster coming off in sheets, or a wet patch spreading across a wall needs a phone call, not the form. Keep people out of the room under a sagging ceiling.

The first visit makes it safe by propping it or taking it down under control, and checks the leak behind it has stopped before anything is replastered. Scheduled plastering runs Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm. A ceiling on the move means ringing us; when the line is engaged, we ring you once we are off the phone.

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Worth knowing

Black mould in the corners is not a plastering fault

Finished bungalow in white render with a grey tiled roof and a resin driveway (illustrative photo for plastering in Thorney Hill)
Through-coloured renderThe colour runs right through the coat, so a chip shows the same shade. Illustrative photo.

Mould is the thing people most often want plastered over, and plastering over it does not work. Condensation shows in the cold spots: the corners of outside walls, behind a wardrobe pushed flat against one, along the ceiling line, on the reveals beside a window. It is worst from November to March, it returns in the same places, and the wall behind it is usually sound.

Water getting in from outside looks different. It makes one patch with a definite edge, it is worse after driving rain than after a cold night, and it lines up with something on the outside face. Rising damp is different again and it stays low. Skim any of the three without dealing with the cause and you have only given it a fresh surface to appear on.

What actually changes it is air movement and warmth, which is why we say so before we quote: open the trickle vents, run the extract fan properly in the kitchen and bathroom, and keep a low background heat rather than short blasts. Approved Document F sets the ventilation standard a room is expected to reach.

Where an outside wall is genuinely cold, and a lot of the solid walled houses in Thorney Hill are, an insulated plasterboard on the inside face changes the surface temperature and the mould stops forming. On a solid wall that has to breathe we would rather use a breathable insulating plaster than seal it up with foam board, because a sealed solid wall trades a mould problem for a damp one.

Who you are dealing with

Plasterers on the Christchurch side of the forest

From our base in Boscombe, Thorney Hill is 6.8 miles, out past Christchurch. We plaster homes there and in Bransgore and Burley. Plastering inside rarely involves any authority, but an outside finish is the National Park Authority's concern, and building regulations sit with New Forest District Council.

Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd is registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719. The man who taps the walls and prices the job is Thomas Hannen, the owner. Checkatrade has a verified customer's 10 out of 10 for us. The visit and itemised quote are free. Before you book a visit in Thorney Hill, you can read our customers' Google reviews, word for word, on our reviews page.

Planning at a glance

Do you need planning permission in Thorney Hill?

Most repairs in Thorney Hill need no application at all. What decides whether a change to the outside of your house does is who the council is, whether a conservation area or a listing applies, and whether the place sits in a protected landscape.

The planning position in Thorney Hill, from council and national records.
Question In Thorney Hill
Who decides New Forest National Park Authority is the planning authority for Thorney Hill. New Forest National Park Authority's heritage pages set out what it controls.
Conservation area None covers Thorney Hill, so a like-for-like repair is ordinary maintenance.
Listed buildings Yes, there are listed buildings in and around Thorney Hill. If yours is one, work can need listed building consent.
Protected landscape Inside the New Forest National Park, where design is looked at more closely and permitted development rights are narrower.

Questions

Questions about plastering in Thorney Hill

We are inside the New Forest National Park. Who decides?

The National Park authority, not the district council. Thorney Hill falls inside the New Forest National Park, so anything that changes how the outside of the building looks is judged by the Park, and design scrutiny on a visible elevation is tighter than it would be on an unprotected street beyond the boundary. Internal plastering is not their concern at all. External render, colour and finish is, so raise that early.

Four in ten Thorney Hill homes are detached. Does that help?

It helps on access and it changes what fails. Detached is much the commonest type in Thorney Hill, so there is usually room to bring the van and the mixer alongside the house and no party wall to work around. The other side of it is that a detached house stands exposed on all four elevations, not two, so the south west face takes the weather with nothing next door sheltering it.

Why can't you skim over our old ceiling as it is?

Because the surface is only as good as whatever is holding it up. A little over a fifth of Thorney Hill predates 1919, and on that stock the ceiling is lime on riven lath, which has given up its key in patches you cannot see from below. A skim over the top adds weight to something that is already letting go. I sound it out first and skim only where the old plaster still has a grip.

Which elevation should we spend the money on first?

That would be the south west one. It is the exposed face here, and wind driven rain works at the edges and the openings rather than the middle of a wall, so it is the reveals, the sills and the external corners on that side that go first while the flat of the render still looks sound. Doing that one elevation is a legitimate job, and I price it that way. There is no need to assume all four.

Is there a benefit to doing every ceiling at once?

On a single storey house there is. One in five Thorney Hill homes is a bungalow, and on those the ceilings all sit on one level under the same roof, so the sheeting, the boarding and the muck away happen once instead of three times over and the levels line up between rooms. It also means moving out of the way for one stretch rather than a room at a time. Thomas Hannen prices both ways.

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