Flat roofing in Thorney Hill

Flat roofs on extensions, garages, outbuildings and garden rooms around Thorney Hill and the BH23 addresses on the forest edge.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

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The flat roofs up here fail from the outside in. A trim works loose in a gale, the wind gets under the covering, and the middle of the roof is still perfectly good when the corner has gone.

Thorney Hill sits high and open, with detached houses on big plots and a good deal of older property mixed in. The flat roofing follows that: extensions, garages, garden rooms, stores and the odd stable or field shelter. Trouble tends to announce itself after a windy night with something flapping, or as a ceiling that has started to mark with nobody able to say where the water got in. We come out, walk the roof, check the perimeter fixings and the falls, look at the deck, and put photographs and a written itemised price in front of you. If something is flapping and rain is getting inside, ring 07435 839745.

The work

The flat roofs around the hill, and how they fail

A felt flat roof on an extension, with the parapet coping being bedded on top (illustrative photo for flat roofing in Thorney Hill)
It fails at the edgeUpstands, copings and the lead. Almost nothing fails in the middle. Illustrative photo.

Extensions and garden rooms. The usual re-cover. EPDM rubber where the shape is a plain rectangle, laid as one sheet with bonded seams. GRP fibreglass where there are kerbs, a step in the level or a corner to work round, because it is laid wet and forms its upstands and edge trim in one piece. Single ply, welded at the laps, on anything with real area to it.

Garages, stores and outbuildings. Detached buildings weather from every side with nothing warming them, so felt built up in three layers with a mineral cap sheet over it goes hard and splits sooner in Thorney Hill than the same covering tucked against a house. A modern torch on system on a dry deck is a solid answer on a big plain span. Whatever goes down, the boards decide it: plywood, OSB or chipboard on joists, and wet chipboard is finished.

Fixed down, not just laid down. On an exposed site the specification is as much about how the covering is held as what it is made of. A fully bonded membrane relies on the adhesive and on a sound deck under it. A mechanically fixed single ply relies on fixings at set centres, closer at the perimeter and corners than in the middle, because that is where uplift works hardest. Ballast is not an option on most light domestic decks. Getting this right is why an edge trim that has worked loose is a fault worth attending to rather than something cosmetic.

Falls, insulation and condensation. Firrings set the falls across the joists, and without them you get ponding and standing water sitting over every lap and seam. Tapered insulation corrects a fall from above. A warm roof takes PIR over the deck with a vapour control layer sealed underneath, holding the timber on the warm side of the dew point throughout. A cold roof holds the insulation between the joists and must be ventilated, or condensation and interstitial damp spoil the decking with no rain involved. BS 6229 is the reference for both.

Junctions, openings and rainwater. At an abutment the brick is chased out and a lead cover flashing dressed into it, not sealed with mastic, and a parapet has its coping and cavity tray checked. At the perimeter it is the edge trim, the drip and the apron. A rooflight, a lantern or a Velux sits on a formed kerb, and so does any soil pipe or vent pipe. Then the gutter, its hopper, the rainwater outlet and the downpipe. The everyday repairs are blisters, bubbles, a split or crack, and a lifted or failed seam.

How it runs

Re-covering a garage or extension flat roof

A stripped pitched roof with breathable membrane and battens going back on (illustrative photo for flat roofing in Thorney Hill)
Stripped back firstWhatever goes on top, what is underneath decides the price. Illustrative photo.

Most flat roofs in Thorney Hill cover a detached garage, a single storey extension on a post-war house, or an outbuilding such as a stable or garden room. Tell us which, and whether it is leaking now. Thomas visits, cuts back a corner of the old covering to see the deck, and does the pricing himself. Stripping and laying both sit on his written quote.

The quote separates access, stripping, the deck and any firrings, the insulation, the membrane, each upstand, outlet and edge trim, and disposal. There is normally room on a Thorney Hill drive for materials and a skip, and a garage roof often comes off a tower. The deck is never left open overnight. If the forecast turns, it is sheeted and weighted, because a gust across open ground lifts anything loose. Old felt and offcuts leave with us. Rot found beyond that first corner is shown to you in a photo, with its cost, before we go further.

A like for like re-cover is maintenance. This is National Park land, so permitted development is narrower than elsewhere and anything visible gets a design look, which National Park heritage and conservation guidance explains. No conservation area covers Thorney Hill. Renewing most of a covering counts as renovating a thermal element, so it is notified to New Forest District Council building control and the insulation brought up to Approved Document L.

Cost

What sets the price of a flat roof at Thorney Hill

A finished grey flat roof with three rooflights set into it (one of our own jobs, shown for flat roofing in Thorney Hill)
Falls, then coveringThe water needs somewhere to go before a roll comes off the van. Photo from one of our own jobs.

The area of a flat roof is the easy part. The deck, the falls and the edges decide the job.

What it covers. A detached garage on an open drive, an extension on a house backing onto the forest, and a stable or field shelter are different jobs. A garage often comes off a tower, anything taller wants a scaffold, and the work at height rules mean the platform is costed on its own.

The deck. Chipboard decks laid when these Thorney Hill houses were built are often soft by now where water has crept in at an edge. Sound ply is overlaid, soaked chipboard comes off and is replaced, and we check which you have before quoting.

Falls and trees. Leaves and needles from nearby trees block outlets, water ponds, and a membrane sitting in water fails early. Firrings to restore a fall and a proper outlet are priced one at a time, following the flat roof code of practice.

Wind at the edges. On an exposed site the edge trims and the perimeter take the uplift, so edges are bonded and fixed for it and single ply is fully adhered rather than loose laid.

Worth asking anyone else: will the deck be renewed or just overlaid, how will the fall be put right, and does the insulation reach Part L?

If it is coming through

A flat roof lifted by wind or letting water through

A split, a burst blister, or a membrane peeled back at an edge after a gale puts water straight onto the ceiling or the contents below. Phone us instead of filling in the form.

On the first visit the roof is covered and weighted so the wind cannot lift it further and the water is got off the deck, then we price the permanent job once we see how much of the deck is wet. Meanwhile, move anything valuable out of the garage or room below. Scheduled work runs Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm; when water is coming through, call, and if the line goes unanswered we return your call as soon as we are able.

Call now: 07435 839745

Worth knowing

After a gale, look at the corners before the middle

The exposed side of nearly everything in Thorney Hill faces south west, and there is very little in the way. Wind does not press a flat roof down, it lifts it, and the suction is strongest at the corners and along the perimeter rather than in the field of the roof. That is why a covering can be sound everywhere you can see and already loose where you cannot.

So after a rough night, the useful check is the edge. Walk round and look along the trim for a section that has lifted, a corner turned up, or a fixing that has pulled. If something is flapping it wants dealing with quickly, because a membrane that has been worked loose keeps tearing at the seams every time the wind gets up. A loose brick dropped on it will not hold it and can make the tear worse. Ring instead, and we will get it sheeted and properly secured before pricing anything permanent.

Who you are dealing with

Flat roofs on the Bransgore side of the forest

Thorney Hill is 6.8 miles from our Boscombe base. We re-cover flat roofs there and in Bransgore, Burley Street and the forest edge addresses of BH23. Any planning question goes to the National Park Authority, and notice of a renewed covering goes to the district council.

The company is Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719. Thomas Hannen, who owns it, lifts the corner of the deck and prices your flat roof in person. On Checkatrade, a verified customer scored the work 10 out of 10. The visit is on us, and so is the written quote with each line itemised. Before you book a visit in Thorney Hill, you can read our customers' Google reviews, word for word, on our reviews page.

Planning at a glance

Do you need planning permission in Thorney Hill?

Most repairs in Thorney Hill need no application at all. What decides whether a change to the outside of your house does is who the council is, whether a conservation area or a listing applies, and whether the place sits in a protected landscape.

The planning position in Thorney Hill, from council and national records.
Question In Thorney Hill
Who decides New Forest National Park Authority is the planning authority for Thorney Hill. New Forest National Park Authority's heritage pages set out what it controls.
Conservation area None covers Thorney Hill, so a like-for-like repair is ordinary maintenance.
Listed buildings Yes, there are listed buildings in and around Thorney Hill. If yours is one, work can need listed building consent.
Protected landscape Inside the New Forest National Park, where design is looked at more closely and permitted development rights are narrower.

Questions

Questions about flat roofs in Thorney Hill

A corner has lifted. Can it be re-fixed rather than replaced?

A lifted corner can usually be re-fixed. The trim comes off, the perimeter is re-fixed at proper centres, the covering is re-bonded or welded back and the trim goes on again. That is a morning. It only becomes a re-cover if the membrane has torn back far enough to have wet the deck.

Which system copes best up here?

It is less about the material than the fixing. A properly bonded EPDM on a sound deck, a GRP laid wet and locked to the boards, or a mechanically fixed single ply with the right pattern at the corners all cope. A covering fixed only at the edges and left loose in the middle does not.

Do you need a survey, or will photographs do?

Photographs help, but they cannot tell us whether a deck is soft or an upstand is high enough. The free site visit takes half an hour, and everything found is photographed and priced in writing after it.

How long will the work take?

A garage roof is usually a day. An extension with fresh boards, new falls, insulation and trims runs to three working days where the deck all changes. The quote gives you the run of days.

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Tell us the address and what you have noticed. We will check the perimeter and the deck, then put an itemised price in writing.