Wall insulation in Thorney Hill

Line the flat of the wall and leave the reveals bare and you have built a cold frame around every window, which is where the mould turns up.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

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A post-war house at Thorney Hill usually has a cavity that can be filled if a borescope shows it clear and dry; an old cottage is solid brick and is lined. Over a fifth of the houses here predate 1919, and in a cottage of that age the window reveals are the part of the job that decides whether it worked. Line the flat of the wall, leave the reveals as they are, and you have left a cold frame around every opening. That is exactly where the condensation lands, so on these houses the reveals are not a detail, they are the job.

The symptoms in Thorney Hill follow from that. Black mould in the corners of a window, on the plaster beside the frame rather than out in the middle of the wall. A cold front room in an old cottage. Or a newer house on the lane where a filled cavity has started showing damp on one elevation.

We look at the wall and the openings together. One small hole and a borescope shows whether there is a cavity and what is in it. Then we measure every reveal, because how much depth there is between the frame and the face of the wall sets what can be used. The site visit and the written itemised quote are both free, and insulation in Thorney Hill covers the loft too.

The work

Cottage walls, deep sills and shallow reveals

Mineral wool insulation being fitted between studs against a wall (illustrative photo for wall insulation in Thorney Hill)
Into the wall, not onto itWhat goes in has to suit the wall behind it. Illustrative photo.

Measuring the reveals. On an old cottage with the original frames set well back, there may be 100mm of masonry to insulate into. On a house with replacement windows fitted forward in the opening there can be under 40mm. That measurement decides the material, and it is taken before anything else is specified.

Thin boards and aerogel. Where there is depth, a thin PIR laminate does the reveal well enough. Where there is barely any, aerogel board gets a usable improvement into 10 or 15mm, which is the difference between reworking the window and working around it. It is the expensive material on the job and the smallest quantity of it.

Internal wall insulation, IWI, on a solid wall. Insulated plasterboard bonded to the masonry, or a batten and stud frame filled with mineral wool. On old solid brick we lean towards a breathable build up, wood fibre and a lime skim, rather than a foil faced PIR, because a vapour tight board pushes the dew point back into the wall. Any vapour control layer is taped and sealed per BS 8000-8.

Cavity fill where there is a cavity. On the post-war houses in Thorney Hill, a clear, dry gap of a usable width is drilled on a pattern, filled and made good in a day. Bonded polystyrene bead suits the exposed elevations, which out here face south west; blown mineral wool is fine in a clean, sheltered cavity.

External wall insulation, EWI. Boards, a render carrier and a render finish. It keeps the room size and the reveals become an external detail instead of an internal one. On a cottage in open country it changes the appearance completely, which in this landscape is the first thing to settle rather than the last.

The rest of the junctions. The threshold, the floor junction, the eaves and the joist ends. A cold bridge, or thermal bridge, left at any of them collects condensation whatever the u value of the wall beside it, and on a solid wall the joist ends are the ones that quietly rot. Where the cavity is continuous a party wall gets a barrier.

Ventilation and draughts. Lining an old cottage tightens it considerably and the moisture from cooking, washing and breathing has to go somewhere. Trickle vents, a working extract fan and clear air bricks are part of the work, and Approved Document F sets what is expected. Sealing draughts alongside is what turns a better u value into a room that feels different.

How it runs

Filling or lining the walls of a post-war house

Insulated plasterboard lining taped and jointed ready for skimming (illustrative photo for wall insulation in Thorney Hill)
Taped and sealedThe joints and junctions are where the heat actually goes. Illustrative photo.

Tell us the age of the house and which walls feel cold. Most homes at Thorney Hill are post-war, so many have a cavity, though the older cottages are solid brick. Thomas comes out, looks through one small drilled hole with a borescope to see whether the cavity is empty, part filled or full of rubble, and prices it himself. Any fill should be put in by a registered installer, with a CIGA certificate.

The written quote separates the borescope survey, the chosen system and thickness, finishing round windows and doors, any extra ventilation, and waste removal. Cavity fill is drilled from outside, a bungalow from a tower and a taller gable from a scaffold, and there is usually space on these plots for either. The drill holes are made good to match the brick or render. Internal lining is done room by room. Damp, a cracked wall or rubble in the cavity is photographed and priced for you before we continue.

Planning for anything visible sits with the National Park Authority, which looks hard at design; the National Park property map shows what covers your address. Filling a cavity or lining a wall inside is a building regulations job for New Forest District Council, while wrapping the outside in an insulated render system is a planning question here. For an existing wall being improved, regulation 23 fixes a Part L U-value the finished wall has to meet.

Cost

What decides the cost of insulating these walls

The wall area is the easy part. The junctions, the exposure and what is in the cavity decide the price.

What sort of wall. Post-war walls in Thorney Hill usually have a cavity, and if the borescope shows it empty and dry, filling it is quick work from outside. The older cottages have solid brick, which can only be lined on the inside or wrapped on the outside, and that is far more work.

Exposure. The south west walls in Thorney Hill face open ground, and driven rain can cross a filled cavity on a very exposed wall. The fill is chosen against the wind-driven rain code, and pointing and render are checked first.

Movement. Clay that shrinks and swells can crack a wall, and a crack lets water into the cavity, so it is repaired before any fill goes in.

Round the openings. Window and door reveals, the floor edge, the eaves and any party wall are where cold bridges form and where mould shows if the detail is skimped. Doing them properly is slow, and it is often what separates two quotes.

Access. Work at height rules apply to drilling from outside too, even at bungalow height.

Ask anyone else whether the cavity has actually been looked into with a borescope, which fill or board is specified and how thick, and how the reveals will be finished.

If damp has appeared

Damp patches after cavity fill or lining

A damp patch or black mould on an outside wall that appeared after the cavity was filled, or after a room was lined, usually comes back to the fill or a cold junction. Either rain is being carried across the cavity, which the exposed south west walls in Thorney Hill are prone to, or warm indoor air is meeting a cold spot at a reveal or floor edge.

Phone rather than using the form. Nothing is taken out until we have looked, since the fix is different for each. We are 6.8 miles away, through Bransgore. Scheduled work runs Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm. Spreading damp is worth a call, and should nobody answer we ring you back once we are free.

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Worth knowing

The reveal is where an insulated wall usually fails

Picture a room with 60mm of insulated board on the wall and nothing on the reveals. The wall surface is now warm, so the air in the room holds more moisture without anything visible happening.

The reveal is still bare masonry, colder than it was relative to everything around it, and it is where that moisture finds a cold surface. Within a winter there is mould down the sides of the window and the owner concludes that insulating the wall caused it. In a sense it did.

Doing it properly means carrying the insulation into the reveal, over the head of the opening and onto the sill wherever there is room, then sealing the joint between the board and the frame. Where the frame sits too far forward for even a thin board, aerogel goes in instead, or the window is reset while the room is open. It is fiddly, slow work and it is a real part of the labour on a cottage with a lot of small openings. It is also the first thing a cheap quote leaves out, so it is the first thing to ask about.

Who you are dealing with

Wall insulation for Thorney Hill and Holmsley

Thorney Hill lies 6.8 miles from our Boscombe base. We insulate walls across Thorney Hill and Holmsley, over to Bransgore and along the lanes to Burley, broadly BH23. Cavity fill and lining here are signed off through New Forest District Council building control.

Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719, is run by its owner Thomas Hannen, who checks the wall and prices it himself. A verified Checkatrade review from a customer gives us 10 out of 10. The visit and the written itemised quote are free. Before you book a visit in Thorney Hill, you can read our customers' Google reviews, word for word, on our reviews page.

Planning at a glance

Do you need planning permission in Thorney Hill?

Most repairs in Thorney Hill need no application at all. What decides whether a change to the outside of your house does is who the council is, whether a conservation area or a listing applies, and whether the place sits in a protected landscape.

The planning position in Thorney Hill, from council and national records.
Question In Thorney Hill
Who decides New Forest National Park Authority is the planning authority for Thorney Hill. New Forest National Park Authority's heritage pages set out what it controls.
Conservation area None covers Thorney Hill, so a like-for-like repair is ordinary maintenance.
Listed buildings Yes, there are listed buildings in and around Thorney Hill. If yours is one, work can need listed building consent.
Protected landscape Inside the New Forest National Park, where design is looked at more closely and permitted development rights are narrower.

Questions

Questions about wall insulation in Thorney Hill

Why does mould show beside a window and not on the open wall?

Because the reveal is the coldest surface in the room, especially if the wall beside it has already been insulated. Warm the reveal and seal the joint to the frame and it goes.

What if there is no depth at all in the reveal?

Then aerogel, which gets a useful improvement into 10 or 15mm, or resetting the window while the room is open. Leaving the reveal bare is the one option we would talk you out of.

Does the National Park affect what I can do?

It affects the outside. An external render system is a planning question here because appearance is scrutinised, while lining inside and filling a cavity are not.

Does a cottage with lots of small windows take longer?

Yes, noticeably. How long a room runs depends on the openings, because each reveal, head and sill is worked separately. It is slower than a cavity fill and we price it honestly.

Should I use foil faced board in an old cottage?

Usually not on solid brick: a vapour tight board moves the dew point into the masonry, so a breathable build up that lets the wall dry inwards is the safer choice.

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Have the reveals measured before the boards are chosen

Thomas comes out, reads the wall, measures every opening and prices the lining and the reveals in writing. The visit and the quote are free.