Boldre repointing, and knowing when a wall does not need it

Mostly modern brickwork here, so the job is usually the sills, the stack and the garden wall rather than the whole elevation.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

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Your joints are due when they have weathered back behind the brick, powder under a key, or sound hollow when tapped. Most of the brickwork around Boldre is modern, and on a wall that young a full repoint is usually wrong: the job is raking out and matching the handful of joints that have failed, with the quote saying what to leave. A crack stepping through the bricks calls for rebuilding, not pointing.

That is not what people expect to hear, so it is worth saying early. A modern facing brick in Boldre is dense and fired hard, and it was laid in a cement mortar deliberately made a little weaker than the brick. That is the right way round, and it means a wall from the eighties can look tired long before it is anywhere near due.

What goes wrong with brickwork here is usually specific. Grit and sand collecting in a gutter under a stack. A joint you can put a key into on the west gable and nowhere else. A straight vertical crack running down an elevation that turns out not to be a crack at all. And on the older properties scattered through Boldre, a soft brick wall pointed in cement by somebody who did not ask what was underneath. The survey covers the whole building, not the wall you rang about: joints scraped at two heights on every face, the loose ones marked, and the lot photographed. What comes back is a written itemised quote that separates what is due now from what we would leave. The site visit costs you nothing.

The work

What actually needs pointing, and what does not

Repointing a brick wall by hand, mortar being struck into a raked-out joint (illustrative photo for repointing in Boldre)
Struck by handOne joint at a time, filled and struck so the face sheds water. Illustrative photo.

Sills, heads and the courses under a window. This is where modern brickwork genuinely does fail. Water runs off a sill and lands on the same strip of wall every time it rains, and if the sill has lost its throat or the end of it is not turned properly the run is concentrated into a few courses.

Those joints open at the arris, go crumbling behind the face, and once water can stand in them a hard frost lifts the surface off. We cut them out to a depth of about twice the joint width, damp them down, fill, and brush the face back once the mix has taken up. That is a morning's work. Leaving it is how you end up replacing bricks.

The courses just above ground level. Where a drive, a patio or a raised border has been laid up against a house, the bottom courses stay wet and the damp proof course stops doing its job. Joints there wash out, faces spall, and pointing alone will not fix it if the ground is still bridging the wall. We will say what needs moving as well as what needs pointing.

Stacks and flaunching. A chimney in Boldre has weather on four sides and nothing heating it from inside, so it is the oldest and coldest masonry on almost any house and its joints go friable years ahead of the walls, and the penetrating damp that follows shows on a bedroom ceiling rather than at ground level. On a house standing on its own down a lane with nothing sheltering it, the stack does the work of a whole exposed elevation. We repoint the stack, cut out frost damaged bricks and renew the flaunching round the pots in one visit, because the access is the honest bulk of that cost and paying for it twice is waste.

The older properties in the parish. A small share of the housing around Boldre predates 1919, and those are solid walls with no cavity, which only shed water by letting it evaporate back out through the joint, so the wall has to stay breathable. They want an NHL lime or lime putty mix gauged to the original sand, raked by hand to about twice the joint width, with the angle grinder left in the van. The finish on period brickwork of that sort is usually flush or slightly recessed rather than the weather struck or bucket handle joint on later work. Nothing ruins one of those walls faster than cement, and undoing it takes far longer than putting it in did.

Blown faces, cut out rather than filled. Where a brick face has gone we cut the brick out and turn or replace it against a sample held on the wall. A mortar patch in the hollow never matches and falls out inside a couple of winters. On a modern Boldre wall the match is usually straightforward; on a soft old brick it means a trial panel you look at in daylight before we carry on.

Garden walls and copings. On modern property in Boldre this is where genuine repointing is needed most. A freestanding wall weathers on two faces and along the top at once, it has no roof over it, and the coping is what fails. Water into the top, then a frost, and the wall starts to come apart from inside. Repointing the top courses and rebedding the coping is quick work; a leaning wall is not.

How it runs

Repointing a wall: survey, rake out, point, brush in

Raked-out joints on a red brick pier being filled with fresh mortar (one of our own jobs, shown for repointing in Boldre)
Raked back firstDepth before filling. A disc widens the joint and takes the arris off. Photo from one of our own jobs.

Thomas looks at the whole house in Boldre before he prices anything. He scrapes the joints at head height and higher on every face, notes the loose ones, checks the chimney stack and photographs the lot. The quote has a line each for access, the area of each face, raking out, the mortar and its mix, replacement bricks, and disposal.

One written quote covers the whole job, and one company is answerable for it. The joints are raked back to sound mortar, the wall is damped, and the new mortar is packed in layers and finished to match the old joint profile. Most houses in Boldre date from the fifties to the eighties and take a cement and lime mix. Older cottages get a lime mortar. The ground below is sheeted, loose mortar is swept up at the end of each day, and it all goes away with us. If we find cracked bricks or a bulge, you are shown a photo and a price before we go further.

Repointing like for like is repair and needs no planning application or building control. The village, Bull Hill and Pilley fall in the Forest South East Conservation Area, where a change of mortar colour or joint profile deserves a word with the National Park Authority first. On a listed building mortar is part of the fabric, and works affecting its character need consent. The Authority’s property map shows what applies to your house.

Cost

Depth, mix and matching: what a repoint takes

Brick corner with a moulded plinth course, mortar matched to the original work (illustrative photo for repointing in Boldre)
Matched, not guessedColour, sand and joint profile picked up from what is already there. Illustrative photo.

A price per square metre tells you little about repointing until someone has scraped the joints. How deep the damage goes. Joints weathered only at the surface rake out quickly. Joints washed back deep, or crumbling to the touch, take much longer. Spalled faces have to be cut out and replaced.

The mortar. Post-war and eighties brick in Boldre is hard and was laid in cement, so a cement and lime mix is right for it. The older cottages have soft brick in lime, and putting cement on those traps water behind the face until frost blows it off. Lime is slower to mix and cure, and it needs protecting from rain and frost while it goes off.

Raking method. A disc is fast but can widen joints and nick soft brick. Hand raking is slower and is the only safe choice on old walls.

Getting to it. A detached house with its own stack, a terrace sharing a gable and a garden wall between two plots each need different access. A stack or a gable means scaffold under the work at height rules.

Before you sign anything, ask any other repointer how deep they will rake, by hand or with a disc, what mix they plan to use, and whether the scaffold is in the price.

If water is getting in

Damp inside after driven rain on the gable

Stone gable with the joints repointed in a lime mortar (illustrative photo for repointing in Boldre)
Stone wants limeOn rubble stone the mortar is most of the surface, and it has to breathe. Illustrative photo.

If rain is getting through a wall, you will see damp patches on the inside that spread after wet, windy weather, often on a south west gable facing open ground or round a chimney breast.

Move furniture away from the wall, and if it is near the chimney, look in the loft for water running down the stack. Pick up the phone and leave the form for later. On the first visit we look at the joints and the flashings, sheet the worst area or point it temporarily to stop the water, and price the full repoint once the wall has dried enough to show what is sound. We work to a schedule, Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm. If the line is busy, we call you back.

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Worth knowing

When we tell people their wall does not need repointing

Algae, a weathered arris and a movement joint all get mistaken for failed pointing on modern Boldre brickwork, and none of them is a repointing job. Green or black staining on a north elevation is algae, and it washes.

A slightly open arris on the weather side of an eighties wall is the mortar doing exactly what it was designed to do, which is to weather in preference to the brick. And the fine straight vertical line that appears every few metres down a long modern elevation is a movement joint. It is meant to be there, it is filled with a flexible sealant rather than mortar, and pointing it up in mortar is the wrong repair: the wall will simply crack somewhere less convenient the following summer.

What we do instead is price the parts that are genuinely due and mark the rest as leave alone, both on the same written quote, so you can see the reasoning for yourself. There is a cost to getting this wrong in the other direction as well. Point a sound modern wall in a mix stronger than the original, which is what happens when somebody quotes an area rate and works fast, and you have turned a wall that was shedding water properly into one that traps it, and the brick faces start to go instead of the joints. The test on a modern wall is simple enough and you can do it yourself: scrape a joint with a key. If you get dust and the key goes in more than a few millimetres, that elevation is worth pricing. If the key skids off, it is not.

Who you are dealing with

Where we travel from to repoint your walls

From Boscombe, where our base is, to Boldre is about thirteen miles. We repoint in the village, Pilley, South Baddesley, East Boldre and Sway, and down into Lymington. If your house is listed, consent for mortar work comes from the New Forest National Park Authority.

Look us up as Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719; Companies House lists it for anyone to see. Thomas Hannen owns the firm and scrapes the joints himself before pricing them. A verified customer rated us 10 out of 10 on Checkatrade. Both the visit and the itemised written quote are free. Before you book a visit in Boldre, you can read our customers' Google reviews, word for word, on our reviews page.

Planning at a glance

Do you need planning permission in Boldre?

Most repairs in Boldre need no application at all. What decides whether a change to the outside of your house does is who the council is, whether a conservation area or a listing applies, and whether the place sits in a protected landscape.

The planning position in Boldre, from council and national records.
Question In Boldre
Who decides New Forest National Park Authority is the planning authority for Boldre. New Forest National Park Authority's heritage pages set out what it controls.
Conservation area Yes: Forest South East Conservation Area. Check whether your street is inside the boundary before changing anything visible.
Listed buildings Yes, there are listed buildings in and around Boldre. If yours is one, work can need listed building consent.
Protected landscape Inside the New Forest National Park, where design is looked at more closely and permitted development rights are narrower.

Questions

Questions about repointing in Boldre

How do we know whether the wall really needs repointing?

Scrape a joint with a door key. If it powders and the key sinks in more than a few millimetres, that elevation is worth pricing. If the key skids off the surface, the joint is sound however tired it looks. We do the same thing on the visit at two heights on every face, because a wall is rarely uniform.

There is a straight vertical line down our wall. Is that a pointing job?

Almost certainly not: long modern elevations are built with movement joints every few metres, filled with a flexible sealant so the wall can expand and contract. They look like cracks and they are not. Filling one with mortar removes the only place the wall was allowed to move, and it will crack somewhere else instead.

Our house is from the eighties. Should the mortar be lime or cement?

Cement and sand, gauged to sit a little under the strength of the brick, and matched to the original sand instead of just the colour. Lime belongs on solid walls built before the cavity, and there are some of those around Boldre, but putting a soft lime mix into a dense modern joint gives you something that washes out in a few winters.

Is it worth pointing one elevation, or does a patch always show?

One elevation is normal and it does not show, because the change happens at a corner where the eye expects one. A patch in the middle of a face is the one that shows, and matching counts there far more than size. Where a patch is unavoidable we make a trial panel and let you look at it in daylight first.

Does being in the National Park change anything about repointing?

Only where the appearance of the building changes. Like for like repair is maintenance and needs nothing. If a wall is listed, the mortar is part of what is protected and consent comes first. The Authority's property map will tell you which category your address falls into, and we check it before we quote.

Free quote

Find out which elevations are actually due

Thomas comes out, tests the joints on every face, photographs them and sends a written itemised quote separating what needs doing from what we would leave. Free.