Insulation in Hyde

Loft, solid wall and floor insulation around Hyde and SP6, specified for the building it is going into and quoted in writing.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

Old buildings can be insulated, and there are a lot of old buildings at Hyde. What they cannot take is a modern build-up that seals a wall which has always worked by drying out. Get that right and the house is warmer. Get it wrong and you have bought yourself damp.

The calls here tend to be one of three. A cottage with cold walls and black corners that appear every winter and get washed off every spring. A converted outbuilding or roof space with a sloping ceiling that never holds heat. Or a heating bill out of all proportion to the house, with nobody able to say where it is going.

We survey the whole envelope, loft, walls, floors and the way air moves through, rather than quoting for the first thing you mention, and we say plainly where the money is best spent. You get photographs of what is really up there and behind it, and a written quote naming the material and the depth.

The work

We insulate to what the roof can honestly take

Celotex rigid insulation boards fitted between roof rafters
Boards between raftersCut tight, with the ventilation gap kept clear behind.

Low lofts over old ceilings. A fair number of roofs here are shallow, and the ceiling below is lath and plaster that will not take any weight at all. So crawl boards go in first, and the material is fed along the bays rather than walked in. The joists in an old roof are shallow and irregularly spaced, which means the between and over method matters more here than anywhere: a thin layer between the joists and the real depth run across the top as a full width eco roll, because you will never get 270mm between timbers only a few inches deep. Where the roof is so low that full depth would close the eaves, vent trays hold the material clear and we insulate to what the roof can honestly take rather than sealing it up to reach a number.

Solid walls that need to keep drying. There is no cavity to fill in a brick or cob cottage. Internal wall insulation is the usual answer, and on this kind of fabric it has to be a breathable build-up: wood fibre board and a lime or mineral finish rather than a foil faced board sealed against the brick. A vapour tight layer on a wall carrying moisture moves the damp to the edge of the board, and you find it at skirting level a winter later. External wall insulation works technically and changes the outside of the building, which inside the Western Escarpment conservation area is a harder conversation than it is elsewhere.

Suspended timber ground floors with a draught coming up between the boards are common, and on a windy night that draught can be worth more than the walls. Where there is a crawl space we insulate between the joists from below and leave every airbrick clear, because the void has to stay dry. Surface water runs high on this ground and Huckles Brook is a little over half a kilometre away, so if a floor has taken water we want to see it before anything goes back down.

Converted outbuildings, annexes and dormers have no loft floor left to fill, so it becomes a warm roof: PIR board cut tight between the rafters, a continuous layer over them or a multi-layer quilt such as TLX where the depth is not there, a vapour control layer on the warm side and a clear air gap kept above. On a sloping ceiling with shallow rafters the gap is the thing people sacrifice to get more thickness in, and it is the thing that causes the condensation. On a post-war house the cavity may be empty or already part filled, and only a borescope tells you which. Then the practical end: an insulated hatch, fire rated covers over any downlighter, lagging on the cold water tank and the pipe runs left above the new layer, and a raised deck where boarding and storage go back.

How it runs

From your call to a written price

Mineral wool insulation being pushed into place between timber studs on an internal wall
Insulating a wallMineral wool cut to a friction fit, so there is no gap at the edge.

One team, one person to ring, nothing sub-contracted out. The quote is itemised line by line: survey, clearing, material and depth, ventilation and disposal. What comes out leaves with us. Insulating a loft, filling a cavity and lining a wall inside are permitted development, so there is nothing to apply for. External wall insulation changes what the building looks like, and inside the New Forest National Park that is a planning matter rather than a formality, with the Planning Portal setting out the general position. There are 21 listed entries around Hyde, and on a listed one even internal work needs consent, so read the Park's heritage guidance and check your address on its property map before you plan.

Cost

What decides the price of an insulation job

Loft room dry-lined and taped between and under the rafters, with a rooflight above
A loft, lined and tapedInsulated between and under the rafters, then boarded and taped.

No rate per square metre: the area is the easy part. A Forest cottage with a loft you crawl into over a lath and plaster ceiling, a converted outbuilding with a vaulted ceiling and no loft at all, and a newer house with a hatch and a fitted ladder are three different jobs before any material comes off the van. Old material has to be bagged and taken away before anything new goes down. Approved Document L sets the U-value a renovated ceiling has to reach, and 0.16 means nearer 270mm of quilt than the 250 people remember. Ask what finished depth is being laid, and whether the eaves are being kept open.

If it is urgent

Damp, condensation or a room you cannot heat

Ring rather than use the form. We are fourteen miles up, so a loft that has gone wet or a room you cannot heat gets a visit quickly, and if a ground floor has taken water we would much rather see it before anybody lays anything back down. The first visit is about telling insulation from ventilation. The phone is answered 24 hours for emergencies; scheduled work runs Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm.

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Worth knowing

Surface water, and what it does to a ground floor

Loft conversion insulated with foil-faced boards and mineral wool around a Velux window
Around a rooflightThe awkward edges are where the heat actually goes.

Hyde is not in a river flood zone, but the surface water risk here is rated high, and Huckles Brook runs close by. Surface water flooding is the kind that arrives off saturated ground and running lanes during a downpour rather than a river coming up over days, so it turns up at a doorway or a low airbrick with almost no warning and it is gone again by the afternoon. That short event is enough to finish most insulation.

Mineral wool between floor joists holds water like a sponge and will not dry in place. An insulated plasterboard lining taken down to the floor wicks water up the wall and hides it. Before you specify a ground floor here, put your own address into the government flood service and see what it says.

What it changes is practical and cheap to build in. On a floor at any real risk, use a closed cell rigid board rather than mineral wool low down, because it does not hold water and can be dried and left. Keep the airbricks clear and as high as the wall allows, since the same vents that ventilate the void are what dries it afterwards.

Stop an insulated wall lining short of the floor on a replaceable plinth, so a wetting costs a skirting rather than an entire wall. And if water has already been in, do not insulate over what is there: wet material comes out and the structure dries first, however long that takes. Anybody willing to board straight over a floor that has been under water is selling you a problem for later.

Who you are dealing with

A local firm you can check

We cover Hyde, Frogham, Godshill, Fordingbridge and the SP6 villages, and out across the Forest as far as Burley and Ringwood. Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719, which you can look up in a minute. Thomas Hannen's business, and he is the one who comes out to price the job, not a salesman. A verified customer's 10 out of 10 on Checkatrade. The visit and the written quote are both free.

Questions

Hyde questions we get asked

Who is the planning authority here, the district or the park?

The New Forest National Park Authority, not the district council. Hyde also sits inside the Western Escarpment conservation area, which controls how buildings look rather than what is inside them. Material over a ceiling is invisible and needs nothing from either body. Change the roof covering, add a rooflight or run vent tiles across a visible slope and you are into their territory, so that gets drawn up first.

We heat with oil out here. Does that change the priority?

It moves the roof to the front of the queue. Around 39% of households in Hyde are on oil and a few more on electricity, so the heating is all bought in advance and stored on site. What you burn is decided by the fabric, not by the boiler. I would sort the ceiling and the draughts first and look at the heating plant itself afterwards.

Surface water runs through here. Does that affect insulation?

It affects anything low down. Hyde carries a high surface water risk and Huckles Brook is only a few hundred metres off, so I will not put absorbent material at or below floor level where run off can reach it. Air bricks have to stay clear as well. Above the ceiling none of that applies, which is another reason the roof space is the sensible place to begin.

Can a listed cottage here be insulated at all?

Usually yes, but the route is different. There are 21 listed entries in Hyde and on those buildings the ceilings, plaster and joinery are part of what is protected, so consent comes before any work that disturbs them. Loose material laid over existing joists in an untouched roof space is the least invasive option and normally the one an officer will accept. Nothing gets screwed through old plaster.

You are a fair way out. Do you still come?

Hyde is about 14 miles from the yard and it is a run I do regularly, so the distance is not the issue. What I do ask is that we look at everything in one visit, because the ceiling, the floor void and the draught sealing are usually one job rather than three. The visit and the written itemised quote are free, and Thomas Hannen does both himself.

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Get an honest survey of the whole envelope

Tell us what the house does in cold or wet weather and we will come and look. Free site visit, free written itemised quote, no pressure.