Flat roofing in Hyde

Extension, garage and outbuilding roofs around Hyde and Frogham, with the outlets and downpipes checked as part of the job.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

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Out in Hyde a flat roof is nearly always on something small: a garage, a store, the link between a cottage and the bit added onto it. Small roofs fail in the same places large ones do, and on a small roof there is far more edge than middle, so most of the money goes into the junctions.

The warning comes when a ceiling has marked, when the felt has gone brittle and started opening along its laps, or when heavy rain has sent water over the edge of a roof instead of down a pipe. That last one is the easiest to miss and is usually the cheapest of the three to put right.

It is a fair drive to Hyde, so we come once and look at the lot: the covering, the deck, the falls, the outlet, and where the downpipe finishes. You get photographs of what was found and a written quote, and neither costs anything. If rain is coming through a ceiling under one of these roofs now, ring 07435 839745 and tell us which building.

Roof by roof

The buildings these roofs sit on, and what each one needs

A felt flat roof on an extension, with the parapet coping being bedded on top (illustrative photo for flat roofing in Hyde)
It fails at the edgeUpstands, copings and the lead. Almost nothing fails in the middle. Illustrative photo.

The garage or the store comes first. The weakest roof on most plots in Hyde. A shallow deck of chipboard or plain boarding over light joists, and a built up felt covering gone hard, split along a lap, with the odd blister standing clear of the boards.

If the boards are dry it takes a new covering straight off, either EPDM rubber in one sheet with bonded laps or a three layer torch on system finished in a mineral cap sheet. Where they are not, new OSB goes down first. A ventilated cold roof is fine over a car or a mower, insulation between the joists and air moving above it. A fresh edge trim with a drip on it goes round the open sides. Single ply is welded rather than bonded and only makes sense across a longer range of garages.

The link between the old house and the newer part. A narrow run of flat tying a cottage to an addition, and the least forgiving roof on the list. It is almost all edge: an upstand against the old wall on one side, a second abutment on the other, a scrap of covering in between and one outlet doing all of the work. The wall is usually soft, so the flashing goes on as lead over an apron rather than a chase cut in deep. GRP fibreglass suits the shape, because it is formed in place and leaves no lap or seam to fail in a corner.

The extension with a room under it. Kitchen, sitting room, sometimes a bedroom, and here the build up matters more than the covering does. Warm damp air off a kettle reaches a cold deck and condenses on the underside, and the interstitial damp that follows rots boards from below with nothing showing on top. The answer is a warm roof: PIR laid over the deck, the vapour control layer under it, the dew point pushed outside the timber. BS 6229 gives the build and Approved Document L the standard. New deck, new firrings and a rooflight formed round runs to two or three working days.

The small roof behind a parapet. Covering turned up the back of a low wall with a coping sitting on top. Water gets in at the coping or at the outlet. The coping lets water into the wall behind the upstand, or the single outlet blocks and the roof turns into a tank. So the coping is re-bedded, a cavity tray goes in behind it where one can, the upstand is carried high enough to be worth having, and the outlet is cleared and checked against the area feeding it. Standing water on one of these is a fall problem and firrings or tapered insulation put it back. Where a lantern, a skylight, a Velux, a hatch, a soil pipe or a vent pipe comes through, each gets its own kerb or collar.

How it runs

Stripping and re-covering a flat roof, one step at a time

A stripped pitched roof with breathable membrane and battens going back on (illustrative photo for flat roofing in Hyde)
Stripped back firstWhatever goes on top, what is underneath decides the price. Illustrative photo.

Thomas starts by getting onto the roof and peeling back a corner to look at the deck, because that decides most of the job. Out in Hyde a flat roof might be a garage well away from the house, a link between an old building and a newer extension, or a workshop with a long span.

The quote breaks down into access, removing the old covering, new deck or firrings if needed, insulation, the membrane, every upstand, outlet and edge trim, and taking the waste away.

You deal with one company throughout. We will not open a deck that cannot be closed again before nightfall, and the work is timed around the forecast, which matters when you live well out along a lane in Hyde. The site is tidied each evening. Should the joists under a rotten deck be soft too, you see a photograph and a price for them before anything else happens.

The New Forest National Park Authority, rather than a district council, handles planning. Re-covering like for like is maintenance; changing how a visible roof looks is covered by the National Park Authority's guidance. Hyde is also in the Western Escarpment Conservation Area. Replacing most of the roof means renovating a thermal element under Approved Document L, so the new insulation goes before building control on a building notice.

Cost

Deck, falls and trees: pricing a flat roof near Hyde

A finished grey flat roof with three rooflights set into it (one of our own jobs, shown for flat roofing in Hyde)
Falls, then coveringThe water needs somewhere to go before a roll comes off the van. Photo from one of our own jobs.

Measuring the area takes a minute. The price depends on what lies under the covering. Reaching it. A garage standing away from the house is usually a tower job. A link roof tight to a two storey wall needs scaffold for as long as the deck is exposed. At the far end of a yard, every roll may have to be carried in. The HSE's work at height rules are why access is priced on its own.

The deck itself. Dry ply or boards will take a new covering. Chipboard that has soaked for years, or ply that flexes underfoot, has to be replaced. From the ground there is no telling, which is why a corner is lifted before the price is written. It makes the biggest difference to the figure.

Where water sits. Ponding means the fall has gone or was never there, and firrings put it back; the British Standard for flat roofs explains how falls should work. Under trees, leaves clog outlets and gutters, so the drainage route needs as much thought as the membrane.

Upstands and trims. Where the roof meets an old wall, and at every edge trim and outlet, the work is slow and priced item by item. That is also where leaks start.

Ask other firms which system and how many layers they mean, whether the deck is new or covered over, whether the falls are corrected, how upstands are finished, and whether scaffold and skip are priced in.

If it is coming through

A flat roof that has split and is letting water in

Phone rather than sending the form. A split, a blister or an upstand that has lifted lets water straight onto the ceiling below, and a wet deck goes on rotting after the rain has passed.

Catch what you can in a bowl, and in a garage or workshop, move tools and stored things out of the way. On the first visit a temporary cover goes on and the water is stopped. We price the full repair when it is clear how far the wet has spread through the deck. Because Hyde is a longer drive, ringing early in the day helps. Scheduled work runs Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm. Should the phone ring out, we return missed calls as soon as we can.

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Worth knowing

The roof is the easy half. The ground here is the other half

Surface water sits badly on this ground in Hyde, and Huckles Brook is near enough to matter in a wet spell. You can check your own address against the government flood risk service. It changes one thing about a flat roof.

On a Hyde roof, a covering that sheds perfectly is no use if the water then banks up against a wall or crosses a yard that is already full. So we follow it: outlet, hopper, downpipe, and then the question nobody thinks to ask, which is where the pipe ends.

Often enough the answer is a gully silted solid, or a pipe finishing in a border that has been quietly wetting a wall footing for years. On new work, surface water is meant to be disposed of properly rather than tipped at the nearest bit of ground, and Approved Document H is where that sits. If a roof is coming off anyway, the hour spent on the drainage while the platform is up is the cheapest that job is ever going to be.

Who you are dealing with

Flat roofing in SP6, priced by the firm's owner

Our base in Boscombe is 12.7 miles from Hyde. We work across the village, Frogham, Gorley, Ogdens and the SP6 lanes above Fordingbridge, where planning sits with the National Park Authority. You are dealing with Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719. Before you book a visit in Hyde, you can read our customers' Google reviews, word for word, on our reviews page.

It is Thomas Hannen's company, and he comes out, lifts the edge of the covering and writes your price himself. On Checkatrade there is a 10 out of 10 from a verified customer. The site visit is free, as is the written quote, with every item on it.

Planning at a glance

Do you need planning permission in Hyde?

Most repairs in Hyde need no application at all. What decides whether a change to the outside of your house does is who the council is, whether a conservation area or a listing applies, and whether the place sits in a protected landscape.

The planning position in Hyde, from council and national records.
Question In Hyde
Who decides New Forest National Park Authority is the planning authority for Hyde. New Forest National Park Authority's heritage pages set out what it controls.
Conservation area Yes: Western Escarpment Conservation Area. Check whether your street is inside the boundary before changing anything visible.
Listed buildings Yes, there are listed buildings in and around Hyde. If yours is one, work can need listed building consent.
Protected landscape Inside the New Forest National Park, where design is looked at more closely and permitted development rights are narrower.

Questions

Questions about flat roofs in Hyde

Is the National Park the right people to ask?

Yes. Hyde sits inside the Park, so the National Park Authority handles planning, not the district council, and the Western Escarpment conservation area covers this side of the valley. None of that troubles a like for like re-cover. It is a change of appearance, a new rooflight or a raised parapet that starts the conversation.

Water goes over the front edge in a downpour. Is the covering finished?

Probably not the covering at all. Either the outlet is blocked, or it is too small for the area of roof feeding it, or the fall now runs to a corner the outlet is not in. We pour water through and watch it before quoting, because clearing an outlet and re-covering a roof are very different bills.

Can you do a store roof without me emptying it?

Mostly, yes: anything directly under the part we are stripping wants moving or sheeting, because old felt and wet board drop dust through the joints. We say on the visit which bays come off first, so you can clear that much and leave the rest where it is.

Is a garage roof a one day job?

Usually, yes: a link roof between a cottage and an extension can take longer than a bigger roof, because it is nearly all detail. An extension needing new boards, new firrings and a rooflight is two or three working days.

Free quote

Get a price for your Hyde flat roof

Tell us the address and what you have noticed. We will look at the covering and at where the water goes, and put an itemised price in writing.