Repointing and lime mortar in Ringwood

Joints raked by hand, a mix matched to the wall it is going into, and the cement pointing somebody put on in the seventies taken back off.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

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Your joints are due when they have weathered back behind the brick, powder under a key, or damp shows inside after rain. Repointing in Ringwood is mostly lime work: close to a fifth of the town was built before 1919, so the walls around the centre are solid brick that stays dry only by letting water out through the joint, and the job is hand raking and a matched lime. Spalled bricks are cut out and replaced separately.

A Ringwood wall due for repointing can usually be read from the pavement or from indoors. Joints on a frontage gone back far enough to see from the pavement. A damp patch inside that turns up a day after heavy rain and fades. Brick faces flaking off in thin plates while the mortar still looks solid. A chimney dropping sand into the gutter.

Not one of those is a wall that needs taking down. All four are mortar, and the last two usually mean somebody has already pointed the wall in the wrong mix. We look at every elevation of a Ringwood house rather than the one you have noticed, scrape joints in two or three places to find how deep the decay runs, and photograph the lot. You get it back in writing, elevation by elevation, with the faces that can wait marked as such. The visit and the written itemised quote are free.

The work

Lime frontages, cement patches and the stacks above them

Repointing a brick wall by hand, mortar being struck into a raked-out joint (illustrative photo for repointing in Ringwood)
Struck by handOne joint at a time, filled and struck so the face sheds water. Illustrative photo.

Pre-1900 solid wall is laid in lime. The older streets around the centre of Ringwood are handmade brick laid in lime, often a soft red stock you can mark with a thumbnail. That works only while the mortar stays softer and more permeable than the brick either side of it.

We rake those joints out by hand to roughly twice the joint width, perpends included, and point back in an NHL lime or a lime putty mix gauged to the original for sand, colour and texture. The finish goes back to the profile the wall carries, usually flush or slightly recessed on a period frontage.

The cement pointing somebody put on in the seventies. The joint to cut out first in Ringwood. A soft Victorian wall gets repointed in hard sand and cement because hard sounds like it lasts; the dense joint then stops the wall breathing, moisture leaves through the brick face, and the first hard frost lifts that face off in flakes. The tell is a wall where the joints look sound and the bricks do not. Taking that mortar out without damaging the arris either side is slow, careful work.

Post-war and later outer skins. Around six in ten homes in Ringwood went up between 1945 and 2008: cavity work, one skin of fired brick in cement and sand, struck weather or bucket handle. Those joints pit and open at the arris rather than washing out, water stands in them, and frost takes the surface off. Match the sand and the gauge as well as the colour, because plenty of the earlier mixes had lime in them.

Spalled faces, cut out rather than filled. Where a face has blown on a Ringwood wall we cut the brick out whole and turn or replace it against a sample held on the wall. Mortar in the hollow leaves a patch that never matches and drops out in a couple of winters. Sourcing a replacement means a trial panel you look at in daylight first.

Stacks, parapets and the joints above your head. Flats and converted houses are a big share of the housing in Ringwood, and a converted house still carries the tall shared stack it was built with. Weather on four sides, a cold flue up the middle, nothing warming it: the joints go friable long before anything at ground level does, and the damp that follows lands on a top floor ceiling. Repointing a stack, renewing the flaunching and making good the parapet joints all want a proper platform. One thing we will not do is point over movement: regular horizontal cracking every fifth or sixth course is corroding wall ties, not tired mortar.

How it runs

How a lime repoint is planned and carried out

Raked-out joints on a red brick pier being filled with fresh mortar (one of our own jobs, shown for repointing in Ringwood)
Raked back firstDepth before filling. A disc widens the joint and takes the arris off. Photo from one of our own jobs.

Thomas looks at the wall and prices it himself. He scrapes a joint or two to see what the mortar is, lime or cement, how deep the decay goes, and whether any brick faces have spalled. The quote is set out in lines: access, raking out, the mortar mix, the area of each elevation, brick replacement and disposal.

Joints are raked out by hand on soft brick, because a disc widens the joint and takes the arris off the brick. The mix is chosen to match the wall, and on the older houses in the centre of Ringwood that usually means lime. Lime needs protecting from frost and fast drying while it cures, so the work is planned around the weather and the wall is covered when needed. One company is responsible throughout. Dust sheets go down, the site is swept every evening, and the old mortar goes with us. If a brick crumbles when the joint around it is opened, you see a photograph and a price before it is replaced.

Repointing like for like needs no planning application. Within the Ringwood Conservation Area a change of sand colour or joint profile alters how a wall looks, and if the building is listed, the old lime between the bricks counts as historic fabric in its own right, so works affecting its character need consent. We check the address before mixing anything.

Cost

Joint depth, the mix and how high it goes

Brick corner with a moulded plinth course, mortar matched to the original work (illustrative photo for repointing in Ringwood)
Matched, not guessedColour, sand and joint profile picked up from what is already there. Illustrative photo.

The area of the wall says little until someone has looked at the joints, so there is no rate per square metre.

Reaching it. A three storey building on the Market Place with a shared stack, a terrace gable taking the weather, and a low front wall on the pavement are all different. A chimney or upper gable needs a scaffold; a garden wall needs none. The work at height rules put access on its own line.

The joints. How deep they have to come out, and how hard the old mortar is, set the hours. Soft lime rakes out easily. Old cement pointing on a soft brick has to be cut out slowly, joint by joint, so the edges survive.

The mix. Lime is slower to work and to cure, and it is right on most walls built before the war. Matching the colour of existing pointing on a listed or conservation area front may need a sample panel first.

Brick faces. Every spalled brick cut out and replaced adds time, and matching a handmade brick can mean reclaimed stock.

Ask anyone else quoting how deep they rake the joints and whether by hand or disc, what mortar they will use, and how many spalled bricks are included.

If water is getting in

Driven rain coming through open joints

Stone gable with the joints repointed in a lime mortar (illustrative photo for repointing in Ringwood)
Stone wants limeOn rubble stone the mortar is most of the surface, and it has to breathe. Illustrative photo.

If a wall is showing damp inside after driving rain, or pointing is falling out of a chimney, it is worth dealing with before the frost gets in. Please ring instead of using the form.

We book planned work Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm, and if we cannot pick up, we ring back as soon as we are able. On the first visit we look at the wall, sheet it or put a temporary point in the worst joints, and price the elevation once it has dried out. If the damp is on a top floor ceiling, the chimney and its flashings get checked first.

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Worth knowing

On a listed building the mortar is part of what is listed

People assume listing protects the front door, the windows and the roof. It protects the fabric, and on a brick building the mortar is fabric.

The mix, the sand that gives it its colour and the profile the joint is struck to are part of how the building reads, so swapping a flush lime joint for a weather struck cement one is a change of character even though every brick stays put. The specification has to be settled before anyone opens a joint, not agreed on the day with a mixer running.

So find out whether your address is listed before you accept a quote, and get the mix and the joint profile written into it as lines rather than left to the contractor. If consent is needed, the mix and the panel are what the conservation officer will want to see. We will make the enquiry for you. And if you are not listed, which most people in Ringwood are not, the wall behaves the same way. Listing adds a permission step, not a different mortar.

Who you are dealing with

Your repointing, priced by Thomas Hannen

Ringwood is 8 miles from us in Boscombe. We repoint across the town, Poulner and Hightown, and out to Ashley Heath, Hangersley, St Leonards and Fordingbridge. The planning authority is New Forest District Council.

Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd is registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719, and the owner is Thomas Hannen. He comes to look at the joints and prices the work himself. A customer verified by Checkatrade rated us 10 out of 10. Coming out costs nothing, and the itemised quote in writing is free too. Before you book a visit in Ringwood, you can read our customers' Google reviews, word for word, on our reviews page.

Planning at a glance

Do you need planning permission in Ringwood?

Most repairs in Ringwood need no application at all. What decides whether a change to the outside of your house does is who the council is, whether a conservation area or a listing applies, and whether the place sits in a protected landscape.

The planning position in Ringwood, from council and national records.
Question In Ringwood
Who decides New Forest District Council is the planning authority for Ringwood. The National Park boundary runs close by, and the Park's property map shows which side an address falls.
Conservation area Yes: Ringwood Conservation Area. Check whether your street is inside the boundary before changing anything visible.
Listed buildings Yes, there are listed buildings in and around Ringwood. If yours is one, work can need listed building consent.
Protected landscape No National Park or National Landscape covers Ringwood.

Questions

Questions about repointing in Ringwood

The house is listed. What has to happen before the mortar comes out?

The mix and the joint profile have to be agreed, and consent obtained, before a joint is opened, because the mortar counts as protected fabric. We take a sample of the sound original, propose a matched mix, make up a trial panel, and put all of it in the written quote so the paperwork has something concrete to point at.

How can we tell whether our pointing is lime or cement?

Scrape a joint with a key in a sheltered spot. Lime is softer, comes away as powder and often has visible lumps of unburnt lime in it. Cement resists the key and fails in hard flakes. Colour is a poor guide, since both go grey. Bricks spalling while the joints look untouched means a hard mix on a soft wall.

Somebody pointed our frontage in cement years ago. Can that be undone?

Yes, and on a soft Victorian wall it is usually worth doing. The hard mortar comes out by hand, slowly, because the point is to leave the edge of every brick intact, and a matched lime mix goes back. Blown faces are cut out and replaced at the same time. Pointing over the top is what caused the problem.

Why does a lime job take longer than a cement one?

Because lime cures on its own timetable. It cannot be rushed in cold weather, it needs protecting from frost and from drying sun while it takes up, and the joints are damped down before filling and brushed back at the right moment. The quote gives working days and says plainly that weather is what would push it.

Our building was converted into flats. Who signs off the repointing?

The freeholder, not the individual owners, because the external walls belong to the building rather than to any one flat. That also means we price a whole elevation. Major works to a block are usually subject to consultation under section 20 of the Landlord and Tenant Act 1985.

Free quote

Have the joints looked at before the frost

Thomas comes out, scrapes a few joints on every elevation, photographs them and puts the price in writing, itemised, at no cost to you.