Loft insulation in Sandford

Topping up, clearing and laying to full depth in Sandford lofts, where most ceilings already carry a thin layer from the 1970s.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

Loft insulation

In short

Mineral wool insulation laid between and over the ceiling joists in a loft
Two layers, crossedThe second layer runs across the joists so the timber stops being a cold bridge.

If the wool in your loft is level with the tops of the joists, it is doing about half the job it could. The timber itself is the leak, and covering it over is what the second run is for.

The calls follow a pattern. A bedroom that has gone cold by the middle of the night.

A loft emptied out after years of nobody touching it, where the old layer proves to be flat, patchy and stopping well short of the walls. Or a roof that has begun to sweat, with damp material and mould showing on the rafters.

Nothing gets priced before somebody has been up. What is there, how deep it is once a rule goes into it, the direction of the joists, whether the eaves have survived, and what has been stacked on top. The visit is free, the written itemised quote is free, and where the ceiling is already fine you will hear that rather than a sales pitch.

The work

Keep it, close it, or bag it

Rigid insulation board fitted between the rafters in a loft
Board where depth is shortRigid board earns its place where the headroom will not take quilt.

What happens to the old layer. It is rarely worthless and rarely enough. It compresses under boards and feet, settles under its own weight, thins to nothing where cables and aerials were pulled through, goes patchy across the middle, and is missing altogether for a foot all the way round the wall. Dry and clean, it stays: teased back open, straightened, and its gaps closed. Contaminated with droppings, or wet, it goes into bags and off the site the same day. That decision is made in front of you at the survey rather than after the van has gone.

Depth, and the direction that does the work. The finished job is about 270mm and it arrives as two separate runs. The first drops in between the joists, pushed tight to the sides so no bay is left open at its edge. The second sits on top of the timber and runs the other way, crossing every joist, and that is the run which stops your ceiling giving its heat back in stripes. Nearly all the old jobs round here went without it, which explains how a loft can look completely tidy from the hatch and still leak all winter. Glass wool on the roll where the bays are even, rockwool batts where they are not, loose fill poured into any corner a roll refuses to sit down into, rigid PIR board where there is no headroom to play with, and multi-foil quilt behind that. Approved Document L sets the u value the finished ceiling is expected to reach under Part L, and that second run is where most of the heat loss left in a house like this gets stopped.

Ventilation goes in ahead of depth. Insulate a ceiling properly and the roof over it turns cold. The dew point shifts upwards into the structure, and the vapour on its way out of your house finds the felt instead. So the material is stopped at the wall plate, vent trays are set in to hold an unbroken channel of air along the eaves, and the roof carries on ventilating itself right across from one side to the other. Where soffits have been boxed in, ridge vents or vent tiles take the work over, and a breathable membrane alters nothing except how the edge is finished. Approved Document F is the standard, and pushing a roll out into the eaves is the fastest way there is to spoil a set of rafter feet, and interstitial condensation will have been at them long before you notice.

Lights, cables, tank, hatch and boards. Every recessed light gets a rated cover over it. Cables come up out of the wool and are clipped to the timber, because cable buried in insulation runs warm. The cold water tank has just been left out in the cold, so it takes a jacket, its pipework takes lagging, and nothing whatever goes underneath the tank. The hatch gets a board of insulation and a draught seal, and if the new floor fouls the loft ladder the ladder is reset. Boarding screwed down onto the joists squashes the layer and throws the depth away, so where the loft still has to hold your things we stand a floor on loft legs and board only the part you walk on. If the roof has already been converted into a room in roof, the job moves up to the rafters instead. Sloping ceilings and dormer cheeks take rigid board between the rafters with a clear gap held under the underlay, a second layer beneath them, every joint taped, and a warm roof that leaves no cold surface for damp air to find.

How it runs

From your call to a written price

A loft insulated at rafter level with the gable filled and a rooflight fitted
At rafter levelA room in the roof is a different job from a cold loft floor.

Same team from first visit to last, one person to ring, and no sub-contracting your work out to somebody you have never met. The quote is itemised, not a figure on the back of a card: the survey, clearing and bagging whatever is up there now, the material and its depth, keeping the eaves clear, the hatch and any pipework, and disposal on separate lines, so you can compare it properly against anyone else's.

Nothing is left open or unusable overnight. The site is swept at the end of each day rather than the end of the job, and what comes out leaves with us. If something turns up once we start that nobody could have seen, you get a photograph and a price before we carry on.

Insulating a roof space is not development, so nothing is applied for and no permitted development right is used, as Planning Portal guidance on insulation sets out. Building control applies where regulation 23 does, which is when more than half of an element is renovated and the whole of it has to reach current standard. There is no conservation area here and only a few listed entries nearby, and listed building consent is where to look if yours is one of them. The VAT rules for energy saving materials are worth reading before you order.

Cost

What decides the price of a loft

Plasterboard taped and jointed on a lined loft wall
Lined, then tapedWhere the loft becomes a room, the boarding and the joints come next.

No rate per square metre, because the floor area is the easy part and the awkward edges are where the time goes.

Getting to it. A post war semi with a landing hatch, a bungalow with a long shallow roof and a crawl at the eaves, and a terrace with the trap over the stairs are three different mornings. A hatch on a landing you can stand a ladder under is one job. A hatch over a stairwell, a crawl space you can only move through on your knees, or a loft full of boarding that has to come up and go back, is time before any material is laid.

What is up there now, and what it is sitting on. Old material that has to come out, be bagged and taken away is a cost before anything new goes down, and so is a loft full of boxes that has to be emptied and put back. Joists at 400 centres with a flat run across them is a different afternoon from a trussed roof full of bracing.

Ventilation, and the edges nobody reaches. Insulation stops at the wall plate and the eaves have to stay clear, or you trade a warm bedroom for a wet roof. Getting depth right into the corners and around the hatch, boxing over downlighters and lagging anything that now sits in the cold, is most of the labour. Approved Document L sets what the work is expected to reach.

Comparing quotes? Ask what depth is actually being laid and in how many layers, whether the old material is coming out or being covered over, whether the eaves are being kept clear, what happens to anything you store up there, and whether the hatch and the pipework are included. Two quotes for the same job are usually two different jobs.

If the loft is wet

Water running off the felt, or mould on the underside

Ring rather than use the form. Droplets on the underside of the felt, black mould spreading across the roof timbers, or insulation that is visibly damp are all telling you the same thing: warm wet air is getting into a space that cannot breathe. That does not wait, because it is the timbers that pay for it. We look before anything is added, because putting more insulation into a loft that cannot ventilate makes it worse. Sandford is twenty minutes from us, so a roof space that has gone wet gets looked at quickly. The phone is answered 24 hours for emergencies; scheduled work runs Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm.

Call now: 07435 839745

Worth knowing

The whole street was insulated in the same few years

Six in ten homes in Sandford went up between the end of the war and the early 1980s, and the biggest single group is late 1960s and early 1970s. Houses built together tend to be improved together, and around here that means most of these lofts got their insulation in the same era, laid to the standard of the day, in one layer, between the joists, and nowhere near the depth anyone asks for now.

That is useful, because it means we usually know what we are going to find before we open the hatch and we can be honest with you about it on the phone. It also means the same fix suits most of the street: keep the old layer where it is sound, close its gaps, and cross lay new roll over the joists to take the whole ceiling to full depth. What varies house to house is the state of the edges, whether anyone has boarded over the top, and whether the eaves have been blocked. If your neighbours are thinking about it too, it is worth asking us to look at more than one loft on the same visit, because the travelling is the part that does not divide.

Who you are dealing with

A local firm you can check

We cover Sandford, Holton Heath, Organford, Wareham and the BH20 addresses around Wareham St Martin, with Dorset Council for planning and building control. You are dealing with Bournemouth Roofing & Building, the trading name of Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719, which you can look up in a minute. Thomas Hannen's business, and he is the one who comes out to price the job, not a salesman. A verified customer's 10 out of 10 on Checkatrade. The visit and the written quote are both free.

Questions

Sandford questions we get asked

How long does it take?

Half a day to a day in most houses here. Clearing is what stretches it: bagging old material, emptying a loft used for storage, and lifting boarding that has to go back afterwards. Each of those is a line on the quote rather than a surprise at the end.

Our insulation looks fine. How do we know it is not deep enough?

Push a rule into it rather than looking at it. If the top of the joists is showing, or nearly showing, you have roughly a third of what a ceiling should carry and every joist is a cold bridge. A loft that looks neat and level from the hatch is usually a loft laid in one layer.

Can you take the old material away?

Yes, where it needs to go. Anything damp, contaminated with droppings or crushed into a mat gets bagged in the loft and taken away with us. Sound dry material stays and is covered, because there is no sense paying to remove insulation that is still doing something.

Will it make the house cooler in summer as well?

It helps, particularly in a bungalow or an upstairs room under a shallow roof, because the same layer that keeps heat in keeps the roof heat out. Ventilation matters here too. A loft that can move air across itself does not sit as a hot box over your bedroom all afternoon.

Free quote

Want to know how deep your loft really is?

We will go up, put a rule into it, check the eaves and the hatch, and send you an itemised written price. The visit costs nothing.