Loft insulation in Ashley

Topping up, clearing out, boarding over and rafter level work in Ashley lofts. We measure what is actually up there before anyone quotes for anything.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

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For an Ashley loft the recommended depth is 270mm of mineral wool, and most lofts do not need emptying to get there. Where the old layer is dry and whole, a second one across the joists tops it up, often in a day. Boards for storage sit on legs clear of it, air keeps moving in at the eaves, and the cold water tank and its pipework get a jacket and lagging. If it is the walls you are wondering about, read insulation in Ashley.

In Ashley the loft usually comes up over a cold back bedroom, a first look in years or a plan to board it. A back bedroom that never warms up however long the heating runs. A loft opened for the first time in years, where the wool has gone grey and flat and trodden into a path between the hatch and the tank. Or a plan to board part of it out for storage, which is when somebody notices the insulation is in the way.

All three start the same way. We lift a corner of what is there and measure the real depth rather than the depth it looks from the hatch, check the eaves are still open, and read the underside of the felt for the marks condensation leaves. The site visit and the written quote are free, and where the loft is genuinely sound we will say so.

The work

Two layers, and the second one crossways

Mineral wool insulation laid between and over the ceiling joists in a loft (illustrative photo for loft insulation in Ashley)
Two layers, crossedThe second layer runs across the joists so the timber stops being a cold bridge. Illustrative photo.

What is up there already decides the first hour. Ashley lofts usually have something in them. It has settled, it is compressed flat wherever anyone knelt on it, and it is patchy or missing in the corners nobody could reach. Dry and in one piece, it stays and we lay over it. Damp, black underneath or contaminated with droppings, it comes out bagged and leaves with us, on its own line.

The material. Most of this is mineral wool, either a soft glass wool roll or a denser rockwool batt. Loose fill, blown or poured, suits a loft where the joists are irregular, and sheep wool is there if you want it. Where headroom is the constraint it becomes PIR, the foil faced rigid board, cut tight and taped, and in a really shallow space a multi-foil quilt earns its keep. Where there is no loft floor to work on, a room in roof is a different job: it goes at rafter level as a warm roof, with board between and under the rafters and the sloping ceiling and dormer cheeks carried through as one layer.

Depth, and why the second layer runs the other way. A ceiling joist is rarely deep enough to hold more than a third of what the ceiling wants, so one layer laid flush between the joists and called finished is the commonest fault in a loft of any age. The first layer goes between the joists. The second is cross laid over the joists at ninety degrees to the first, so the timber stops working as a cold bridge through the ceiling. Two layers, roughly 270mm all in, which is what a Part L U value works out to in mineral wool.

Where it has to stop. The layer stops at the wall plate. The eaves stay open, and vent trays keep a clear air gap under the covering above the quilt so cross ventilation still crosses the roof from eaves to eaves. Block the eaves and you have bought a wet roof: the vapour that used to drift away sits under cold felt instead, and by February there are droplets on the underlay and black mould on the rafters. Insulating moves the dew point, and interstitial condensation inside the layer is the failure nobody sees. A roof with a breathable membrane, or none at all, is detailed differently, and on some a ridge vent is the honest answer.

The things already living up there. Recessed lights want proper covers, not a heap of wool over the top, and cables are lifted and clipped over the top instead of being buried, since buried wiring runs hot. Once the ceiling is at full depth the cold water tank sits in cold air, so it gets a jacket, the pipework gets lagging, and the patch under the tank is left thinner on purpose.

How it runs

Laying a second layer across the joists of a bungalow loft

Rigid insulation board fitted between the rafters in a loft (one of our own jobs, shown for loft insulation in Ashley)
Board where depth is shortRigid board earns its place where the headroom will not take quilt. Photo from one of our own jobs.

Before pricing an Ashley loft, Thomas climbs in to see how much old insulation there is and what state it is in, along with the joists, the eaves, the tank and any condensation. The quote lists the survey, clearing and bagging what is there, the new mineral wool and its depth, eaves ventilation, insulating the hatch and pipes, and disposal.

A bungalow loft covers the whole house, so it is a big floor, and in the fifties and sixties bungalows of Ashley it is often under-insulated. We lay rolls between the joists, then a second layer across them, keeping a gap at the eaves so air can move. Crawl boards protect the ceilings below, the hatch is insulated and draughtproofed, and the hall is hoovered before we leave. Old wool is bagged and goes with us. A leak or rotten timber found up there is photographed and priced for you, and waits for your decision.

Insulating a loft is work inside the building, so it does not count as development, which Planning Portal guidance on insulation confirms. Planning here is handled by New Forest District Council, and no conservation area covers Ashley. Building control only comes in if you go further, with a conversion or renovating more than half a roof, where regulation 23 brings the element up to standard.

Cost

Big bungalow lofts, low eaves and slow edges

A loft insulated at rafter level with the gable filled and a rooflight fitted (one of our own jobs, shown for loft insulation in Ashley)
At rafter levelA room in the roof is a different job from a cold loft floor. Photo from one of our own jobs.

We do not price an Ashley loft by the square metre. The floor is the easy part; the edges take the time. Size and shape. Bungalow lofts are big for the house beneath them, and a hipped roof brings the eaves down low all round, so the last stretch at every edge is slow, lying-down work.

Getting in. A hatch in a bungalow hall ceiling is simple. A chalet with rooms in the roof leaves only eaves voids behind small doors. A semi with the hatch over a half landing needs a platform first.

What is up there. Squashed or dirty old wool comes out in bags first, and stored boxes have to be moved. Joists at even centres with a clear run go quickly, and a trussed roof full of bracing does not, because every roll has to be cut round the timbers.

Ventilation. The eaves must stay clear, the tank and pipes need lagging once they sit above the new layer, and downlighters need boxing. Approved Document L sets the target depth.

Ask what depth is going down and in how many layers, whether old material comes out, and whether the hatch is insulated too.

If the loft is wet

Condensation dripping in the loft

Plasterboard taped and jointed on a lined loft wall (illustrative photo for loft insulation in Ashley)
Lined, then tapedWhere the loft becomes a room, the boarding and the joints come next. Illustrative photo.

Droplets on the underside of the felt, mould on the rafters, or damp insulation mean warm, wet air from the house is reaching a cold loft with no way out, and the timbers pay for it. Do not add more insulation yet.

Make sure the bathroom extractor is ducted to the outside air, not blowing into the roof space, keep the hatch closed, and dry washing outdoors where you can. First we find where the moisture comes from and clear the eaves, and only then is anything added. Loft work is booked Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm. Phone about a dripping loft rather than filling in the form, and if we miss your call, you will get a ring back as soon as we can.

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Worth knowing

In a bungalow the loft is the lid and the cupboard

Something over four in ten homes in Ashley are bungalows, and that changes both the sums and the storage in a loft. The arithmetic first: the ceiling you are insulating sits over every room in the house rather than over the upstairs only, so the same day's work cuts more heat loss here than it does in a two storey house on the same footprint, and the heating bill notices it sooner.

It is also the one thermal improvement an EPC assessor measures with a tape rather than assumes.

The other thing is that in an Ashley bungalow the loft is usually the only storage there is, and nobody wants to give that up. You do not have to. Loft legs stand a raised floor clear above the insulation, so the quilt is never squashed flat under a chipboard platform, which is what makes most boarded storage useless. We board the part you actually use and leave the rest at full depth. The hatch gets insulated on its back and sealed against draughts, and if the loft ladder is a wobbly one we will say so.

Who you are dealing with

Who crawls into your loft, and the company behind him

Lofts in Ashley, New Milton, Bashley, Hordle, Tiptoe and Barton on Sea, and the BH25 addresses round them, fall under New Forest District Council for building control. Boscombe, where we are based, is 8.9 miles away.

Thomas Hannen crawls in, looks at your loft and does the pricing himself, and the business is his: Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719. Checkatrade shows a verified customer's 10 out of 10 for us. Your visit is free, as is a written quote broken into items. Before you book a visit in Ashley, you can read our customers' Google reviews, word for word, on our reviews page.

Planning at a glance

Do you need planning permission in Ashley?

Most repairs in Ashley need no application at all. What decides whether a change to the outside of your house does is who the council is, whether a conservation area or a listing applies, and whether the place sits in a protected landscape.

The planning position in Ashley, from council and national records.
Question In Ashley
Who decides New Forest District Council is the planning authority for Ashley. The National Park boundary runs close by, and the Park's property map shows which side an address falls.
Conservation area None covers Ashley, so a like-for-like repair is ordinary maintenance.
Listed buildings Yes, there are listed buildings in and around Ashley. If yours is one, work can need listed building consent.
Protected landscape No National Park or National Landscape covers Ashley.

Questions

Questions about loft insulation in Ashley

How long does a loft take?

Most are a day. A top up over a sound existing layer is a morning if the loft is clear, and the time goes on the awkward parts instead of the middle: opening the eaves, getting depth into the corners, boxing the downlighters and dealing with the tank. Clearing old material out adds most of another day.

There is insulation up there already. Does it all have to come out?

Usually not: dry, even and in one piece, it is doing its job and removing it is money spent to end up where you started, so the new layer goes across it. It comes out where it is damp, black underneath, contaminated by birds or rodents, or stuffed hard into the eaves.

Will the loft get colder, and does that matter?

Yes, and yes. A properly insulated ceiling keeps heat in the house and leaves the roof space above it colder than it was. That matters for the cold water tank and its pipework, which now want lagging, and for ventilation, because cold air holds less vapour before it condenses.

Ours is a bungalow. Is it worth more than in a house?

In heat terms, yes. In a single storey house the loft floor is the ceiling of the whole building rather than of the upstairs, so the area losing heat straight up is roughly double. It also means a longer perimeter to detail, and a shallow bungalow roof is tight right out at the wall plate.

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