Repointing stone walls in Langton Matravers

Purbeck rubble bedded in lime, a conservation area that takes an interest in how a joint is finished, and brick mostly on the stacks.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

In Langton Matravers the mortar question is the usual one and the wall is not. Almost everything that needs pointing here is Purbeck limestone rather than brick, and stone rubble wants a lime mortar kept back to the face rather than a hard band smeared across it. Undoing that hard band is the job we are called to most.

A wall announces itself before anybody rings. Mortar coming out of a rubble elevation in lumps rather than dust. A gable that goes dark after a wet south westerly and stays that way for days. Grit in a gutter under the stack. An old repair gone hard, cracked away from the stone and sitting proud of it in a grey ribbon.

Stone is forgiving about being left alone and far less forgiving about being repaired badly, so the free site visit here is mostly diagnosis. We survey every elevation, test the joints with a key to see whether it is original lime or a later cement, and photograph the lot. Back comes a written itemised quote, elevation by elevation, saying which faces are genuinely open and which we would leave.

The work

Pointing Purbeck rubble, and the brick that comes with it

Repointing a brick wall by hand, mortar being struck into a raked-out joint
Struck by handOne joint at a time, filled and struck so the face sheds water.

Rubble limestone elevations. A stone wall is not a brick wall with different units in it. The bed joints are uneven, the perpends wander, and the mortar does more packing than a thin brick joint. So we do not rake to a set depth. We take out what is loose, crumbling or friable, follow the decay back to sound material, and fill in stages so deeper voids are not left hollow. All of it with hand tools: an angle grinder on soft limestone takes the arris off and leaves a sawn line down a wall that was never straight. Joints are damped down before filling.

The mix, and where the joint finishes. Purbeck limestone is soft and permeable, and these are solid walls with no cavity, so the wall sheds water by evaporating it back out through the joint. That means a breathable lime: an NHL or lime putty mortar gauged to the original sand, and BS EN 459 sets out which lime is which. The joint is kept a few millimetres back from the face, slightly recessed, so the aggregate shows and the stone reads as the surface of the wall. The weather struck and bucket handle profiles you see on brickwork have no business on a rubble elevation, and neither does a flush joint carried over the stone face.

Taking cement off stone. Much of what we do in the village is removing hard sand and cement pointing put on in the last fifty years. It is slow work with hand tools, because the cement is stronger than the stone and will bring a face away with it. Spalling gathers under sills and beside downpipes; where a face has gone we cut the stone back or replace it against a sample, then point the surround in the softer mix. A trial panel goes up first, judged on how it will look weathered.

Chimney stacks and brick dressings. The stacks here are often fired brick above the roof line even where everything below is stone. A stack takes weather on four sides with nothing warming it, so its joints go first and penetrating damp turns up on a ceiling below. We repoint the stack, renew the flaunching around the pots and make good the junctions. A low stack on a single storey range sometimes comes off a tower; anything on a main ridge wants a scaffold and is priced as its own line.

Boundary and field walls. Plenty of the walls along the lanes are built dry or nearly dry, with little more than earth and a lean lime between the stones. Pointing one solid in a modern mortar wrecks it: the wall loses the drainage it was built with. Where one is coming apart we bed and pin it back with a soft mix, or say it wants rebuilding rather than pointing.

How it runs

From your call to a written price

Raked-out joints on a red brick pier being filled with fresh mortar
Raked back firstDepth before filling. A disc widens the joint and takes the arris off.

Same team from first visit to last, one person to ring, and no sub-contracting. The quote is itemised rather than a figure on the back of a card: access, raking out, the mortar mix, the area of each elevation, brick replacement and disposal all on separate lines.

Nothing is left open overnight. The site is swept at the end of each day rather than the end of the job, and what comes out leaves with us. If something turns up that nobody could have seen, you get a photograph and a price first.

Repointing like for like is repair rather than development, so it needs no planning application and nothing goes to building control. Appearance is another matter. The older core sits in Langton Matravers Conservation Area, where a repair in the same material is maintenance while a change of mortar colour or joint profile changes how the building reads from the lane. There are fifty listed entries here, and on a listed building the mortar is protected fabric, so repointing needs listed building consent first under section 7 of the Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990. We check an address before anybody opens a joint.

Cost

What decides the price of a repointing job

Brick corner with a moulded plinth course, mortar matched to the original work
Matched, not guessedColour, sand and joint profile picked up from what is already there.

No rate per square metre: the square metres tell you almost nothing until somebody has looked at the joints.

Getting to it. A Victorian quarryman's cottage straight on the village street, a stone gable taking the weather off the ridge and a boundary wall along a lane are three different set ups. A chimney or gable wants a scaffold, a low wall a tower or nothing at all. How long the platform stands matters as much as how big it is, and the work at height rules make it a priced line.

The joints decide it, not the wall. Raking out by hand is slow, and on soft brick the only safe way, because a disc cutter widens the joint and takes the arris off. How deep the joints come back, and whether faces have already spalled, sets the hours far more than the area does. The mix matters as much: cement holds water against a soft brick and the face blows off in the first frost.

Comparing quotes? Ask how deep the joints are raked, by hand or by disc, what the mix is and whether it was matched, how many spalled bricks are cut out, and whether the scaffold is in. Two quotes for the same job are usually two different jobs.

If water is getting in

Open joints, and water coming through the wall

Stone gable with the joints repointed in a lime mortar
Stone wants limeOn rubble stone the mortar is most of the surface, and it has to breathe.

Ring rather than use the form. Joints washed out let driven rain straight through to the inside face, and penetrating damp on a chimney finds the flashings too. We look, sheet or temporarily point the worst if the weather is against us, and price the elevation once it has dried enough to see what is sound. Here it is nearly always the south west gable or the stack. Water travels sideways inside a rubble wall before it shows, so the damp patch inside is rarely opposite the open joint that caused it. The phone is answered 24 hours for emergencies; scheduled work runs Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm.

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Worth knowing

The grey ribbon, and why the conservation area cares about it

Walk the village and you can pick out the walls pointed in cement since the war. The giveaway is a band of grey mortar standing proud of the stone, spread wide across the face to save cutting back into the joint. It is called strap or ribbon pointing, and on a Purbeck wall it does two kinds of damage at once.

The first is what the conservation area is concerned with. A stone wall should read as stone with mortar between it. Ribbon pointing inverts that, so the wall reads as mortar with stone showing through, and the shadow lines that give a rubble elevation its texture disappear. That is a change of appearance rather than a repair. The second is technical: a hard cement band seals the one route water had out of a solid wall, so damp goes deeper and stays longer, and when the cement parts from the stone it takes a layer of face with it.

So ask any quote where the joint will finish relative to the face of the stone, and what happens to the existing cement. A quote that says nothing about either is a quote for a ribbon.

Who you are dealing with

A local firm you can check

We cover Langton Matravers, Worth Matravers, Kingston, Acton and down into Swanage, broadly BH19, all of it under Dorset Council. You are dealing with Bournemouth Roofing & Building, the trading name of Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719, which you can look up in a minute. Thomas Hannen's business, and he prices every job himself. A verified customer's 10 out of 10 on Checkatrade. The site visit and the written quote are free.

Questions

Langton Matravers questions we get asked

Is pointing stone really different from pointing brick?

Yes, in method more than principle. Brick gives a thin, even joint you can rake to a set depth. Rubble stone gives joints of every width, so you follow the decay and fill the deep ones in stages. The finish differs too: on stone the mortar is kept back off the face, where on brick it sits level with it.

Somebody pointed our wall in cement years ago. Can it be taken off safely?

Usually, and it is worth doing on a wall holding damp. It comes off slowly with hand tools, because the cement is harder than the limestone and pulls at the face. We test a small area first and show you the result before agreeing a whole elevation. If a stretch will not come off without wrecking the stone, we leave it.

Do we need permission to repoint inside the conservation area?

Repointing in the same material and profile is maintenance and needs no application. Changing the mortar colour, changing where the joint sits, or pointing a stone wall in cement is a change of appearance, and on a prominent elevation the council will take an interest. If the building is listed, consent comes first regardless.

Should a Purbeck garden wall be pointed at all?

Often not. Many of the older walls along the lanes were built to let water run through them, and filling every gap with mortar pushes the water into the wall instead. If a wall is losing stones the answer is usually to bed and pin the loose ones back with a soft mix rather than point the whole thing.

Do you match the mortar to the stone or to what is in the joints now?

To the oldest sound mortar we can find, not the most recent repair. We take a sample from somewhere sheltered, look at the sand for colour and texture, and make up a trial panel for you to judge in daylight. It reads light for a year or two, so judge it on how it will look weathered.

Free quote

Get the joints tested before anybody opens them

Thomas comes out, finds out what is actually in your joints, photographs every elevation and sends a written itemised quote with the mix and the finish written on it. Free.