Repointing stone walls in Langton Matravers

Purbeck rubble bedded in lime, a conservation area that takes an interest in how a joint is finished, and brick mostly on the stacks.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

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Your joints are due when mortar is coming out of the stone in lumps, stones have started to loosen, or damp shows inside after rain. Almost everything that needs pointing in Langton Matravers is Purbeck limestone, not brick, so the job is raking out by hand and repointing in lime kept back to the face of the stone, never a hard band smeared across it. A wall that is shedding stones may need rebuilding in part.

A wall announces itself before anybody rings. Mortar coming out of a rubble elevation in lumps rather than dust. A gable that goes dark after a wet south westerly and stays that way for days. Grit in a gutter under the stack. An old repair gone hard, cracked away from the stone and sitting proud of it in a grey ribbon.

Stone is forgiving about being left alone and far less forgiving about being repaired badly, so the free site visit in Langton Matravers is mostly diagnosis. We survey every elevation, test the joints with a key to see whether it is original lime or a later cement, and photograph the lot. Back comes a written itemised quote, elevation by elevation, saying which faces are genuinely open and which we would leave.

The work

Pointing Purbeck rubble, and the brick that comes with it

Repointing a brick wall by hand, mortar being struck into a raked-out joint (illustrative photo for repointing in Langton Matravers)
Struck by handOne joint at a time, filled and struck so the face sheds water. Illustrative photo.

Rubble limestone elevations. A stone wall is not a brick wall with different units in it. The bed joints are uneven, the perpends wander, and the mortar does more packing than a thin brick joint. So we do not rake to a set depth.

On a Langton Matravers wall we take out what is loose, crumbling or friable, follow the decay back to sound material, and fill in stages so deeper voids are not left hollow. All of it with hand tools: an angle grinder on limestone takes the arris off and leaves a sawn line down a wall that was never straight. Joints are damped down before filling.

The mix, and where the joint finishes. Purbeck limestone is hard and dense, and the Langton Matravers walls are solid rubble walls with no cavity, so the wall has to dry out through its joints. That means a breathable lime: an NHL or lime putty mortar gauged to the original sand, and BS EN 459 sets out which lime is which. The joint is kept a few millimetres back from the face, slightly recessed, so the aggregate shows and the stone reads as the surface of the wall. The weather struck and bucket handle profiles you see on brickwork have no business on a rubble elevation, and neither does a flush joint carried over the stone face.

Taking cement off stone. The usual trouble on the older walls in Langton Matravers is hard sand and cement pointing put on in the last fifty years. It is slow work with hand tools, because the cement grips the stone tightly and will bring a face away with it. Spalling gathers under sills and beside downpipes; where a face has gone we cut the stone back or replace it against a sample, then point the surround in the softer mix. A trial panel goes up first, judged on how it will look weathered.

Chimney stacks and brick dressings. The stacks in Langton Matravers are often fired brick above the roof line even where everything below is stone. A stack takes weather on four sides with nothing warming it, so its joints go first and penetrating damp turns up on a ceiling below. We repoint the stack, renew the flaunching around the pots and make good the junctions. A low stack on a single storey range sometimes comes off a tower; anything on a main ridge wants a scaffold and is priced as its own line.

Boundary and field walls. Plenty of the walls along the Langton Matravers lanes are built dry or nearly dry, with little more than earth and a lean lime between the stones. Pointing one solid in a modern mortar wrecks it: the wall loses the drainage it was built with. Where one is coming apart we bed and pin it back with a soft mix, or say it wants rebuilding rather than pointing.

How it runs

Hand raking and lime on Purbeck stone, with a trial panel first

Raked-out joints on a red brick pier being filled with fresh mortar (one of our own jobs, shown for repointing in Langton Matravers)
Raked back firstDepth before filling. A disc widens the joint and takes the arris off. Photo from one of our own jobs.

Thomas scratches out a little of the old mortar in a few places to see what the wall was built with, then prices the repoint himself. Purbeck stone was laid in lime. A later cement repoint traps water behind it, and the face of the stone flakes away. The written quote separates scaffold or access, raking out by hand, the lime mix, each elevation by area, any stone or brick to be replaced, and taking the waste away.

First comes a trial patch, left to dry so you can judge the colour and texture before the rest is done. One company sees it through from the first rake to the last brush back. On a Langton Matravers house the south west face, which takes the driven rain, is usually the worst, and it is tackled first when the weather allows. Fresh lime is protected from frost and wind, glass and paving are covered, and the spoil goes each day. If raking uncovers loose stone or a void, a photo and a price reach you before any extra raking.

Putting back the same mortar in the same way is a repair: no planning application, and building control has no part in it. On a listed building the mortar is protected fabric, so listed building consent is needed first under section 7 of the Planning (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Act 1990. Before changing the mortar colour or joint profile on a wall seen from the lane, ask Dorset Council, as the village is covered by the Langton Matravers Conservation Areas 1 and 2.

Cost

Why the seaward face takes longest to repoint

Brick corner with a moulded plinth course, mortar matched to the original work (illustrative photo for repointing in Langton Matravers)
Matched, not guessedColour, sand and joint profile picked up from what is already there. Illustrative photo.

Repointing is not priced by the square metre. The area tells you little until someone has looked into the joints.

Depth and method. Joints are raked back to sound mortar, by hand on soft stone and brick, because a grinder widens the joint and takes the arris off. That slow hand work makes up the bulk of the cost.

The mix. Lime lets a solid wall breathe. Cement holds water against the face, and frost then takes it off. Matching the colour on Purbeck stone means testing sands until a panel dries right.

Exposure. The seaward and south west faces weather deepest, and salt in the joints means raking further back before the new mortar will hold.

Access. A boundary wall needs no platform at all. A gable or chimney needs scaffold that stays up while the lime cures, priced under the work at height rules.

Stone to replace. Where a Purbeck stone has spalled or split, it is cut out and a matching piece set in. Each one is counted in the quote, so you can see how many are allowed for.

Put these to another firm. How deep will they rake, and with what? Which mix, and has it been matched? How many damaged stones or bricks are allowed for, and is the scaffold included?

If water is getting in

Rain driving through open joints on a stone gable

Stone gable with the joints repointed in a lime mortar (illustrative photo for repointing in Langton Matravers)
Stone wants limeOn rubble stone the mortar is most of the surface, and it has to breathe. Illustrative photo.

Ring instead of using the form if open joints are letting rain in and damp is showing indoors. Inside a rubble stone wall, water runs sideways before it appears, so the wet patch is seldom opposite the joint that let it in.

Around a chimney, it gets behind the flashings as well. On the first visit we sheet the worst of it or point it temporarily, and check nothing is about to drop. We quote for the whole elevation once it has dried out and the sound mortar can be told from the failed. Scheduled work is Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm. Unanswered calls are returned once we are off the scaffold.

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Worth knowing

The grey ribbon, and why the conservation area cares about it

Walk Langton Matravers and you can pick out the walls pointed in cement since the war. The giveaway is a band of grey mortar standing proud of the stone, spread wide across the face to save cutting back into the joint. It is called strap or ribbon pointing, and on a Purbeck wall it harms both the look and the fabric at once.

The look is what the conservation area is concerned with. A stone wall should read as stone with mortar between it. Ribbon pointing inverts that, so the wall reads as mortar with stone showing through, and the shadow lines that give a rubble elevation its texture disappear. That is a change of appearance rather than a repair. The fabric suffers too: a hard cement band seals the one route water had out of a solid wall, so damp goes deeper and stays longer, and when the cement parts from the stone it takes a layer of face with it.

So ask any quote where the joint will finish relative to the face of the stone, and what happens to the existing cement. A quote that says nothing about either is a quote for a ribbon.

Who you are dealing with

Repointing in Worth Matravers, Kingston and Acton

We are based in Boscombe, 11.2 miles away. We repoint in Langton Matravers and in Worth Matravers, Kingston, Acton and down into Swanage, broadly BH19, all of it Dorset Council territory. You would deal with Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719. Before you book a visit in Langton Matravers, you can read our customers' Google reviews, word for word, on our reviews page.

The firm is Thomas Hannen's, and he scratches out a joint and prices the job in person. We have a verified customer's 10 out of 10 on Checkatrade. Both the site visit and the written quote, broken into items, are free.

Planning at a glance

Do you need planning permission in Langton Matravers?

Most repairs in Langton Matravers need no application at all. What decides whether a change to the outside of your house does is who the council is, whether a conservation area or a listing applies, and whether the place sits in a protected landscape.

The planning position in Langton Matravers, from council and national records.
Question In Langton Matravers
Who decides Dorset Council is the planning authority for Langton Matravers. Dorset Council's heritage pages set out what it controls.
Conservation area Yes: Langton Matravers Conservation Area 1, Conservation Area 2 and Acton Conservation Area 1 and 2. They cover parts of Langton Matravers, so check whether your street is inside one.
Listed buildings Yes, there are listed buildings in and around Langton Matravers. If yours is one, work can need listed building consent.
Protected landscape Inside the Dorset National Landscape (formerly AONB), so anything visible from outside gets more attention.

Questions

Questions about repointing in Langton Matravers

Is pointing stone really different from pointing brick?

Yes, in method more than principle. Brick gives a thin, even joint you can rake to a set depth. Rubble stone gives joints of every width, so you follow the decay and fill the deep ones in stages. The finish differs too: on stone the mortar is kept back off the face, where on brick it sits level with it.

Somebody pointed our wall in cement years ago. Can it be taken off safely?

Usually, and it is worth doing on a wall holding damp. It comes off slowly with hand tools, because the cement grips the limestone tightly and pulls at the face. We test a small area first and show you the result before agreeing a whole elevation. If a stretch will not come off without wrecking the stone, we leave it.

Do we need permission to repoint inside the conservation area?

Repointing in the same material and profile is maintenance and needs no application. Changing the mortar colour, changing where the joint sits, or pointing a stone wall in cement is a change of appearance, and on a prominent elevation the council will take an interest. If the building is listed, consent comes first regardless.

Should a Purbeck garden wall be pointed at all?

Often not: many of the older walls along the lanes were built to let water run through them, and filling every gap with mortar pushes the water into the wall instead. If a wall is losing stones the answer is usually to bed and pin the loose ones back with a soft mix rather than point the whole thing.

Do you match the mortar to the stone or to what is in the joints now?

To the oldest sound mortar we can find, not the most recent repair. We take a sample from somewhere sheltered, look at the sand for colour and texture, and make up a trial panel for you to judge in daylight. It reads light for a year or two, so judge it on how it will look weathered.

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Get the joints tested before anybody opens them

Thomas comes out, finds out what is actually in your joints, photographs every elevation and sends a written itemised quote with the mix and the finish written on it. Free.