Langton Matravers gutters, iron in salt air

Cast iron on stone, hoppers that fill quietly, and fixings that go before the gutter does. We clear it by hand and check what is holding it up.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

Half the rainwater goods in Langton Matravers are cast iron on stone, and cast iron rots at its fixings long before it fails anywhere else. So the clear and the look at the bolts and brackets belong on the same visit.

People ring when water comes over the front edge in a westerly, when a downpipe has started running down the wall behind itself, or when rust staining has appeared on stonework that was clean last year.

The site visit is free. We go along every run, take out the leaf, moss and silt by hand into a bucket, clear the outlet and the shoe, and then run water through so you can watch it go rather than take our word for it. What comes out leaves with us. You get a written itemised quote afterwards, with the clearing and any repair on separate lines.

The work

Stone, cast iron and the runs that face the sea

Leaf litter and moss lifted out of a house gutter by hand
Cleared, then provedLifted out by hand, then water run through to show it goes.

Clearing, on a village that sheds more than leaf. Most of what we lift out of a gutter in this village is moss and grit rather than leaf: moss off stone slate and off north facing tiles, and fine sand blown up from the coast that settles in the bottom of a run and turns to sludge. Loose material is scooped out, packed moss is dug out or lifted on a vacuum, and the run is wiped down rather than skimmed. It goes into a bucket, not over the garden and not flushed down the outlet. Twice a year suits most properties here, one clear in spring and one after the leaves are down in autumn, though an annual clear is enough on an open plot.

Outlets, hoppers and downpipes. Older properties here often have a hopper head at the top of the downpipe, and a hopper is a trap by design: it catches everything and nothing tells you it is full until water comes over the lip and down the wall. We empty every hopper by hand, clear the outlet, run the downpipe through from the top and rod from the shoe where water is backing up. Then each run is proved with water.

Cast iron, treated as cast iron. It is heavy, it is worth keeping, and it should never be jetted or levered at. We clear it by hand, look at the bolt through each joint, check the back of the ogee where rust starts out of sight, and report on the brackets. Cast iron does not end up sagging the way plastic does. It comes away at the fixing, usually because the timber behind it has gone soft, and a bracket screwed into a rotten fascia is the reason most lengths drop.

Valley gutters and the runs between ranges. Plenty of stone properties have an outshut or a rear range, which puts a valley gutter or a box gutter where nothing shows from the ground. Those flood inwards rather than over the front edge, so the first sign is a damp patch on a ceiling. Where the pitch makes it awkward a camera goes up on a pole so you see it too.

Repairs, plastic and otherwise. Where a modern plastic run has been fitted to an extension, the usual faults are a dropped bracket, a length out of fall, and a union whose seal has hardened and started to drip. Brackets get refixed, then we realign and re-hang the length, and a union gets a new seal or is replaced. On cast iron the equivalent is a joint raked out and made good. Water that has been going behind a gutter rather than down it soaks the fascia and runs along the soffit, so soft fascias and any green staining on render or stone get reported.

How it runs

From your call to a written price

Rainwater spilling over the front edge of a blocked gutter in heavy rain
Where it shows firstWater over the front edge, and a wet stripe down the wall below.

Same team from first visit to last, one person to ring, and no sub-contracting your work out to somebody you have never met. The quote is itemised, not a figure on the back of a card: access, the length of run, the number of outlets and downpipes, any repair, and where the debris goes on separate lines, so you can compare it properly against anyone else's.

Nothing is left open or unusable overnight. The site is swept at the end of each day rather than the end of the job, and what comes out leaves with us. If something turns up once we start that nobody could have seen, you get a photograph and a price before we carry on.

Clearing and repairing gutters is maintenance: no planning application, and nothing for building control to sign off. Changing them is different, and it matters here: the village sits in its own conservation area and carries around fifty listed entries, so replacing cast iron with plastic on a visible elevation is a change of appearance rather than a repair. Dorset Council holds listed building consent and the conservation area map, and we check an address before anything is ordered.

Cost

What decides the price of a gutter clean

No rate per square metre, because a metre of gutter behind a conifer and a metre on an open gable are not the same metre.

Getting to it. A stone cottage tight to the lane with no room for a tower, a detached house with a rear outshut, and a bungalow with a garage run along one side are three different afternoons, and only one of them is ever likely to want a scaffold. A bungalow run comes off a ladder or a pole, a three storey gable wants a tower, and a valley gutter between two roofs wants a proper platform. The work at height rules are why the access is a priced line rather than something absorbed into a rate.

What is in it, and how far it has travelled. Leaf litter lifts out in minutes. Moss washed off the tiles sets into a wet mat that has to be dug out, and silt in a long run behind a hedge is heavier and slower than anything a photograph shows. The number of outlets matters more than the length, because that is where it packs.

Whether it is a clean or a repair. A joint that drips once it is running again, a downpipe blocked at the shoe, a length of plastic that has sagged between brackets: none of that is clearing, and it is the part that decides whether you are booking an hour or half a day.

Comparing quotes? Ask whether the downpipes are being run through or just the gutter cleared, whether the outlets and hoppers are checked, whether it is a clear or a clear and a check for leaks, and who takes the debris away. Two quotes for the same job are usually two different jobs.

If it is overflowing now

Water coming over the gutter in heavy rain

Ring rather than use the form. Water running down a wall in a downpour soaks the brickwork and finds its way to a ceiling faster than most people expect, so a blocked outlet in a wet week goes to the front of the queue. We clear it, run water through to prove it, and tell you honestly if what you actually have is a broken joint rather than a blockage. If water is coming over a run on the seaward side, mention it, because on this village that is often a corroded outlet rather than a blockage. The phone is answered 24 hours for emergencies; scheduled work runs Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm.

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Worth knowing

Salt air, and why the fixings go before the gutter does

The coast is a little over a mile and a half away and the air carries salt inland on every south westerly. Salt does two things to rainwater goods, and neither shows up in a photograph. It keeps a surface damp between showers, so metal spends far more of the year wet than the rainfall suggests. And it eats steel inwards from any cut edge, so the first thing to fail is never the gutter, it is the screw, the bolt through the joint or the bracket.

That changes what a clean should include on this side of Purbeck. Ask for the fixings to be checked, not just the run emptied. A stainless screw put in now is minutes of work. A length of cast iron that comes down onto a path because its bracket rusted through takes the fascia with it and sometimes a window sill. On the seaward elevation the survey covers every bracket rather than a sample, and anything nearly gone is photographed and priced while the access is already there.

Who you are dealing with

A local firm you can check

We cover Langton Matravers, Kingston, Worth Matravers, Swanage, Corfe Castle and the villages either side, broadly BH19, under Dorset Council. You are dealing with Bournemouth Roofing & Building, the trading name of Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719, which you can look up in a minute. Thomas Hannen's business, and he is the one who comes out to price the job, not a salesman. A verified customer's 10 out of 10 on Checkatrade. The visit and the written quote are both free.

Questions

Langton Matravers questions we get asked

Should cast iron gutters be jetted or pressure washed?

No. High pressure drives water behind the joints, strips what paint is left and finds every pinhole in the back of the section. Cast iron is emptied by hand and rinsed gently, and the joints and bolts checked, which is where the problem usually is.

Why do the screws and brackets fail before the gutter here?

Salt. This close to the coast the air keeps metal damp between showers and corrodes steel inwards from any cut edge, so a fixing gives out years before the section it holds. On seaward elevations every bracket is checked and replacements priced while the access is up.

What is a hopper head, and does it need clearing separately?

It is the open box at the top of a downpipe on older properties, and yes it does. A hopper catches everything the gutter sends it and gives no warning, so the first sign is water pouring over the lip and down the stonework behind the pipe.

Do we need consent to replace old gutters on a house in the village?

Possibly. The village has its own conservation area and a long list of listed entries, and swapping cast iron for plastic on a visible elevation is a change of appearance rather than maintenance. We check the address before anything is ordered.

Can you get to a gutter on a cottage with no room for a tower?

Usually, yes. A narrow lane frontage is worked off a ladder with a stand off, or from a reach pole with a camera where a ladder cannot be footed safely. If a run cannot be reached safely we say so rather than take a chance. How long it takes is set by the access rather than the length of gutter.

Free quote

Get the runs cleared and the fixings checked

Thomas comes out, clears every gutter, hopper and downpipe by hand, proves each run with water and prices any repair separately. Free.