Patios in Woodlands

Paving set out around the trees that are already there, rather than through them.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

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Almost every patio in Woodlands has a tree in the conversation somewhere. Mature oak, beech and conifer sit close to the houses here, and their roots run further out than most people expect, usually right under the flattest part of the garden.

So the faults on a Woodlands patio show a pattern. One area of paving lifted and tilted while the rest sits flat. Joints cracked open in a line. A slab rocking over something solid underneath it. And, because the same trees cast shade, a terrace that stays damp, greens over and gets slippery through the winter.

None of that is fixed by heavier slabs. It is fixed by how the base is built and where the paving is set out. We come out to Woodlands, lift a slab, dig a trial hole to see what is under it and take levels off the house before pricing anything. You get one written itemised quote with the dig, the muck away, the sub base, the paving, the edges and the jointing on separate lines, after a free visit.

The work

Building over roots without killing the tree

Porcelain patio slabs laid to a fall with a gravel border alongside (one of our own jobs, shown for patios in Woodlands)
Laid to a fallWater goes away from the house, not along the wall. Photo from one of our own jobs.

Reading the ground comes first. Before anything is set out in a Woodlands garden we find out where the roots run. A trial hole in two or three places tells us far more than a plan does. Old concrete, sunken flags, brick paviours, a raised bed and made ground all have to come out, and the spoil is loaded to a grab lorry or a skip and leaves with us.

What we will not do. We do not cut a root plate back to make a level. Severing the structural roots of a mature tree destabilises it and often kills it slowly, and the paving is not worth that. Where roots cross the area we raise the build over them, reduce the excavation on that stretch and put the depth back in stone instead.

The sub base. A geotextile separator, then MOT Type 1 in compacted layers of about 100mm. Under trees the ground is threaded with fine root and holds moisture, so the separator earns its place, and the compaction is done in layers rather than one pass over a deep lift.

Porcelain. Calibrated twenty millimetre porcelain is the right answer for a shaded plot. It takes on almost no water, so algae get little grip and there is nothing in the slab for a frost to open. Full bed of mortar over a slurry primed back, never on dabs.

Stone. Sandstone is warm and easy to lay but porous, so under trees it greens and stains from leaf fall. Limestone is more even and marks with iron. Granite is dense and copes well with a damp position. Travertine is a poor choice in Woodlands. Hand cut stone varies in thickness so the mortar bed levels it; calibrated stone is sawn to one depth.

Falls, levels and drainage. Paving falls away from the building and finishes two courses below the DPC where the garden allows, which is what Approved Document C requires. Water goes to a gully proved to still run, a soakaway where the ground takes it, or a permeable build with an open graded base so the runoff stays on your land, which is also the kinder option for a tree.

Edges and jointing. Edging bedded and haunched in concrete, a coping to any low retaining wall, a kerb line at the lawn and a gravel border along the house. Over a root run we keep the jointing flexible: a brush in compound that can take a little movement rather than rigid hand pointing that cracks in a straight line. Porcelain elsewhere on the terrace takes a grout made for dense units.

Repairs. Lifting and re-bedding slabs that have been pushed up, rebuilding a sunken bay, replacing cracked units, renewing washed out jointing and cleaning a green terrace.

How it runs

Building a patio around Forest trees and clay

A finished porcelain patio in the wet, showing how the surface drains and where the joints sit (one of our own jobs, shown for patios in Woodlands)
Judged in the wetRain shows the falls and the joints that a dry day hides. Photo from one of our own jobs.

Thomas comes out, looks at the garden, the levels against the house and any trees close by, and prices it himself. Thomas is your contact while it is dug, laid and pointed.

On the written quote you will see the excavation and muck away, the sub base, the falls and where the water goes, edgings and steps, the slabs themselves, and the jointing. Access in Woodlands is usually round the side of a bungalow or through a gate on a big plot, so a small digger can often reach the back garden. Where a tree root crosses the dig, we expose it by hand and build over it without cutting it. The garden is tidied every evening, the spoil leaves with us, and if old concrete or made ground turns up, that is photographed and priced before we dig it out.

Around Woodlands the National Park Authority deals with planning, and protected trees can need written notice before anyone works on them. The NPA’s heritage and conservation pages set out what that means for an address. The paving itself is normally permitted development and is not building control work.

Cost

What the price of a patio in the Forest depends on

Most people expect the paving to be the big cost. On a Woodlands garden it seldom is. How materials get to the back. A sixties bungalow with a wide side gate lets a small digger and a barrow run through.

A detached house behind trees can mean a long carry across a lawn. A cottage with only a narrow passage means every slab and every bag of sharp sand goes in on foot. The work at height rules still govern the dig and the plant.

Clearance. Old concrete, a rockery, a raised bed or a tangle of roots all have to be broken up and hauled off before the base can go in. We price that by the load, because a bucket of clay and a bucket of broken concrete weigh very different amounts.

The clay. Woodlands clay swells in wet winters and shrinks in dry summers, and oaks draw moisture out of it. A shallow base will move. We dig deeper, lay a membrane, compact the sub base in layers and bed each slab on a full mortar bed, never on a few dabs.

Height against the house. The finished surface has to sit two courses under the damp proof course and fall away from the wall. On a sloping plot that can mean a step, a small retaining wall or a channel drain.

Ask whoever else is quoting how deep their base goes, whether slabs sit on a full bed, and which jointing they use.

If it has become a hazard

A slab pushed up by a root, or a step that has sunk

A slab lifted at one corner or a step that has dropped is a trip hazard. A Woodlands patio in the shade of trees can also turn green and slippery through the winter. Put a pot on the raised slab so nobody catches it, and keep off the slippery area.

Ring 07435 839745, not the web form, and tell us what has moved. If the line is busy, wait for our return call, which comes as soon as we can make it. Our first job there is lifting and re-bedding the worst slab or step and looks at whether a root or a failed base is the cause, and the rest is priced in writing. Booked work runs Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm.

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Worth knowing

The roots were here first and they are staying

A mature tree's roots are shallow and wide, not deep and narrow. Most of the structural root sits in the top half metre of soil and spreads out well beyond the canopy, which is why the flat, tempting corner of the garden is so often exactly where they are.

A normal patio excavation cuts straight through them, and a tree that loses a significant share of its roots on one side can become unstable long before it looks unwell. Roots that survive keep growing, too, and a rigid paving build sitting directly on them will be lifted and cracked, usually in one clear line rather than all over.

The build that works is a compromise built in deliberately: a shallower dig over the root run with the level made up in compacted stone, a separator between the stone and the soil, a flexible jointing compound rather than a rigid mortar over that stretch, and the seating area itself set slightly away from the trunk where the layout allows. Where the tree is protected, and in a conservation area many are, we design around it as a matter of course rather than asking afterwards.

Who you are dealing with

Patio builders for Woodlands and the Totton side

We lay patios in Woodlands, Netley Marsh, Bartley, Ashurst and the villages towards Totton, broadly SO40. From 80a Wolverton Road, Boscombe, it is a 17.8 mile drive. Patio planning questions go to the National Park Authority, and building control to New Forest District Council.

You are dealing with Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719. It belongs to Thomas Hannen, who comes to your garden to measure up and price the work. Checkatrade shows a 10 out of 10 from one verified customer. The site visit is free, as is the written quote with its separate lines. Roots from the same trees run under the front, and a driveway in Woodlands is built over them with the same flexible approach. Before you book a visit in Woodlands, you can read our customers' Google reviews, word for word, on our reviews page.

Planning at a glance

Do you need planning permission in Woodlands?

Most repairs in Woodlands need no application at all. What decides whether a change to the outside of your house does is who the council is, whether a conservation area or a listing applies, and whether the place sits in a protected landscape.

The planning position in Woodlands, from council and national records.
Question In Woodlands
Who decides New Forest National Park Authority is the planning authority for Woodlands. New Forest National Park Authority's heritage pages set out what it controls.
Conservation area Yes: Forest North East Conservation Area. Check whether your street is inside the boundary before changing anything visible.
Listed buildings Yes, there are listed buildings in and around Woodlands. If yours is one, work can need listed building consent.
Protected landscape Inside the New Forest National Park, where design is looked at more closely and permitted development rights are narrower.

Questions

Questions about patios in Woodlands

Will building a terrace over roots kill the tree?

Not if the build is designed for it: less digging over the root run, the level made up in stone, a separator, and joints that can move. What harms a tree is excavating through the structural roots.

One section of my patio has lifted and the rest is fine. Why?

That is the signature of a root under it. The lift is local and usually runs in a line. It can be taken up and rebuilt over the root without replacing the whole terrace.

Do I need permission to cut a tree back before the work?

Very possibly: trees in a conservation area are protected and work to them needs written notice first. We check before the dig is booked, not after.

Which paving handles constant leaf fall best?

Porcelain: leaf tannins stain porous stone and the debris feeds algae in open joints. A dense slab with full joints sweeps clean.

Will a permeable patio help the tree?

It does help. Water and air still reach the root zone instead of everything being sealed off, and the rain stays on your ground instead of running off it.

Free quote

Design the patio around the trees you want to keep

Thomas comes out, opens a trial hole, finds where the roots run and prices the work in writing. The visit and the quote are free.