Patios in Everton, set below the damp course

A bungalow floor sits low, so on most gardens here the patio level is decided before the slab is chosen, and a terrace built up to the back door is a damp problem waiting to happen.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

On a bungalow the patio is a levels job before it is a paving job. The floor sits low, there are often only two or three courses of brick between the ground and the damp proof course, and a terrace built up to meet the back door is the quickest way to put damp into a wall that was dry.

Most calls start with one of three things. A patio that ponds instead of draining. Slabs sunk where a conservatory was added later. Or somebody who wants the terrace level with the back door and has been told it cannot be done.

It usually can, but not by raising the ground. We survey the back of the house, find the damp course, take levels across the garden and set the surface from those, then price it in writing with the dig, the sub base, the falls, the drainage, the edgings, the slabs and the jointing on their own lines. The site visit and the itemised quote are free.

What we lay

Patios for a low bungalow, from the levels up

Porcelain patio slabs laid to a fall with a gravel border alongside
Laid to a fallWater goes away from the house, not along the wall.

Finding the damp course first. Nothing is ordered until the damp proof course has been found and marked. On the bungalows here the DPC is often a brick or two above the garden, which decides the depth of the dig, whether you get a step and where the drainage goes.

The dig and the muck away. Old concrete, an apron round a sun room, tree roots from a boundary hedge and a foot of made ground all get excavated out. The spoil goes into a skip or a grab lorry. On a low bungalow the dig is deeper than people expect, because the slab finishes low and the sub base still has to fit under it.

The sub base. MOT type 1 laid and compacted in shallow layers, with a geotextile under it where the subgrade is soft. Hardcore has its place on a small area, but type 1 locks together, which is why it holds a level under furniture and a hot tub.

Porcelain. The most common choice on these gardens. Calibrated to one thickness, almost no absorption, and made in slip rated finishes, which matters on a shaded terrace. It goes on a full mortar bed with a slurry primer on the back of each slab.

Sandstone, limestone and granite. Riven sandstone suits an older bungalow better than a large format porcelain. Limestone and travertine give a flatter surface. Granite setts work for a threshold band or a step tread. None is calibrated, so each slab is bedded to its own thickness.

Full mortar bed, never dabs. A full bed under the whole slab, not five dabs and fresh air, and not a sand screed. Dabbed slabs go hollow, ring under a heel and crack across the middle within a couple of winters. It is the commonest fault we lift.

Falls, thresholds and steps. A fall away from the house across the whole area, never along the wall. Where the threshold is low we drop the patio two courses below the damp course and use a wide shallow step rather than building the level up.

Drainage. An ACO channel at the wall taking runoff to a gully, or a permeable jointed edge and a soakaway at the low end of the garden. On a flat plot the fall is built into the sub base, because you cannot find it in the slabs afterwards.

Edges and retaining. Haunched edging or a kerb to hold the outer course, a retaining edge with a coping where a border sits higher, and a border detail so soil does not wash across the paving.

Jointing and repairs. A resin grout you brush in while the joints are damp, or pointing in mortar on riven stone. We also lift and relay: sunk bays, rocking flags, a cracked slab, staining, efflorescence and a slippery green surface that washing will not keep off.

How it runs

From your call to a written price

A finished porcelain patio in the wet, showing how the surface drains and where the joints sit
Judged in the wetRain shows the falls and the joints that a dry day hides.

Same team from first visit to last, one person to ring, and no sub-contracting your work out to somebody you have never met. The quote is itemised, not a figure on the back of a card: excavation and muck away, the sub base, the falls and where water goes, edgings and steps, the slabs themselves, and jointing on separate lines, so you can compare it properly against anyone else's.

Nothing is left open or unusable overnight. The site is swept at the end of each day rather than the end of the job, and what comes out leaves with us. If something turns up once we start that nobody could have seen, you get a photograph and a price before we carry on.

Paving a garden at ground level is normally permitted development. A raised terrace, a retaining wall or a change of ground level is where it stops being automatic, and the Planning Portal lists the other permissions that can apply. New Forest District Council is the planning authority, there is no conservation area covering the village, and the fifteen listed entries in the area sit out in the lanes rather than among the bungalows. Building control is interested in levels and drainage against the house, not in the slabs.

Cost

What decides the price of a patio

No rate per square metre, because the slabs are the part you choose and the smallest part of the price.

Getting to it. A detached bungalow with a drive to the back gate, a semi with a narrow path down one side, and a park home plot with no vehicle access at all are three different jobs on the same size of patio. Everything comes in and goes out through the garden, often through a side gate or the house. A patio you can barrow to directly is a different job from one where every slab is carried. The work at height rules still apply to the dig and the machinery.

What is coming out before anything goes down. An old concrete slab, a raised bed, tree roots or made ground all have to be dug out and taken away, and that is priced by the load rather than by the metre. The dig is where a patio quote is won or lost.

Falls, levels and the damp course. A patio has to fall away from the house and finish at least two courses below the damp proof course, and getting that right often means steps, a retaining edge or a drainage channel. Laying a new patio up against a wall at the wrong level is the single most expensive mistake on this kind of job.

Comparing quotes? Ask how deep the dig goes and what sub base is specified, whether the slabs are laid on a full wet bed or on dabs, what the falls are and where the water goes, whether edgings and steps are included, and what the jointing compound is. Two quotes for the same job are usually two different jobs.

If it has become a hazard

A patio that has lifted, sunk or turned slippery

Ring rather than use the form. A slab that has lifted at one corner or a step that has dropped is a trip, and a north facing patio in winter can be genuinely dangerous. We can usually lift and re-lay the worst of it quickly, then look properly at whether the base under the rest has gone. On a low bungalow a sunken bay right outside the back door holds water against the wall as well as being a trip, so those get looked at quickly and we say on the day how long the permanent repair needs. The phone is answered 24 hours for emergencies; scheduled work runs Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm.

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The one local thing

Bungalows, and the two courses under the back door

Two in every five homes here are bungalows, and that changes the patio job more than any material choice does. A bungalow floor sits close to the ground. On many of the ones built here in the late fifties and sixties there are only two or three courses of brick between the garden and the damp proof course, and less once decades of soil have been added round the walls.

A patio has to finish at least two courses below that damp course. Build the paving up to meet a low threshold and you bridge it: rain lands on the slab, sits against the brick and wicks past the barrier into the wall. It shows as a damp skirting a year or two later, and by then the patio has to come up again.

So we set the level first and design round it: a shallow step down from the door, a channel across a low threshold, and sometimes taking the surrounding ground down rather than the patio up. That is more digging and more muck away than an overlay, and it is the difference between a terrace that lasts and a damp problem you paid for.

Who you are dealing with

A local firm you can check

We cover the village, Hordle, Downton and the lanes towards the coast road, broadly SO41, under New Forest District Council. You are dealing with Bournemouth Roofing & Building, the trading name of Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719, which you can look up in a minute. Thomas Hannen's business, and he is the one who comes out to price the job, not a salesman. A verified customer's 10 out of 10 on Checkatrade. The visit and the written quote are both free.

Questions

Everton questions we get asked

Can my patio be level with the back door of a bungalow?

Not against the wall. The paving has to sit two courses below the damp course. What we can do is a wide shallow step down from the threshold, or a recessed channel across the doorway, so it reads as level without bridging it.

My patio ponds in the middle after rain. What is wrong?

Either it was laid flat or the falls run the wrong way. Water needs a steady fall away from the house across the whole area, built into the sub base rather than found in the slabs. Ponding also says the bed under it has settled.

Do I need a step down onto the patio?

Usually one or two, and that is a good thing rather than a compromise. A wide shallow tread with an overhang keeps water off the riser and gives the fall somewhere to start without pushing the level up against the brickwork.

Is porcelain slippery when it is wet?

Not if the right finish is specified. External porcelain comes in slip rated surfaces and a shaded terrace gets a textured one. What makes any patio slippery is algae, and that grows on a surface that stays damp.

Will a hot tub sit on a normal patio base?

Only if the base was built for it. Filled and occupied it is a serious point load, so that area wants a deeper compacted sub base or a reinforced slab. Tell us before we dig, not after the paving is down.

Free quote

Get the levels checked before anyone quotes you a patio

Thomas comes out, finds the damp course, takes levels across the garden and prices the dig, the base, the falls, the drainage and the jointing in writing. The visit and the quote are free.