Loft insulation in West Parley

Lifting boarding, laying full depth underneath and putting the floor back on loft legs, in bungalow lofts across West Parley.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

Loft insulation

Straight to it

Mineral wool insulation laid between and over the ceiling joists in a loft
Two layers, crossedThe second layer runs across the joists so the timber stops being a cold bridge.

The fault we find on most of these ceilings is not that there is nothing there. It is that there is one layer, laid flush between the joists, so every timber in the roof is still carrying heat straight down into the room. The fix is the layer that goes the other way.

The call tends to come after a cold snap. The heating runs longer than it used to, the rooms cool off quickly once it stops, and somebody has been up through the hatch and seen the tops of the joists standing clear of a mat of old wool that has gone flat and grey.

What that tells you is worth knowing before anyone quotes. A layer level with the joist tops was normal when these houses were built, and it was never meant to be the finished job by today's standards. So we survey rather than price on the phone: real depth taken at several points, the wall plate checked for a clear air path, a look at what has been laid over the lights and the cables, photographs of all of it. The site visit and the written itemised quote are both free.

What we lay

One layer is half the job. The second one runs the other way

Rigid insulation board fitted between the rafters in a loft
Board where depth is shortRigid board earns its place where the headroom will not take quilt.

Why the direction matters. Wool sitting between the joists insulates the gaps and leaves the timber alone, and timber conducts. Run your hand across a ceiling like that on a cold morning and you can feel the joists through the plaster. The second layer is cross laid over the joists at right angles to the first, so the timber disappears under it and stops bridging. That single change is where most of the improvement in the U value comes from, and about 270mm all in is what a renovated ceiling is expected to reach under Part L in Approved Document L.

What goes down. Mineral wool roll where there is a clear run to work along, rockwool batts where trussed bracing chops the floor into short bays, glass wool, loose fill poured and levelled into corners a roll will never sit flat in, sheep wool if you would rather have a natural fibre. Where the headroom has run out altogether, PIR rigid board such as Celotex earns its place because it does more per millimetre, and multi-foil quilt fills the last shallow strip. The old layer is not automatically waste: if it is dry and in one piece it gets teased apart, straightened between the joists and kept as the first of the two. If it is damp, compressed to nothing, patchy, or contaminated with droppings, it is bagged and carried out.

The perimeter, on a roof that comes down low. The material is carried out over the wall plate and stopped, with a vent tray at every rafter holding an air gap open above it so cross ventilation runs from one eaves to the other. On a shallow roof there is very little room to do that in, which is exactly why it gets skipped: it is far quicker to push the wool on into the corner and leave. Do that and the roof cannot dry itself. Water forms on the underside of the felt, the dew point moves into the layer, interstitial condensation builds where nobody sees it and black mould works along the rafters. BS 5250 is the code that covers moisture in a roof, and a ridge vent or tile vents are the answer where the eaves are boxed in and cannot be opened.

Lights, tank, hatch, storage. Recessed lights and downlighters take fire rated covers so they keep their air. Cable and wiring come up on top of the new layer instead of being buried, because buried wiring runs hot. The cold water tank and its pipework get lagging now the space around them is properly cold. The hatch gets rigid board on its back and a draught seal round the lining, which you notice on the landing more than anything else on this list. Boarding goes back on loft legs so the raised floor clears full depth and your storage platform does not flatten what you have just paid for, and the loft ladder is set to the new height. Where a bungalow has already had rooms put into the roof, the job changes to a warm roof at rafter level, taped and sealed, following the sloping ceiling and the dormer cheeks.

How it runs

From your call to a written price

A loft insulated at rafter level with the gable filled and a rooflight fitted
At rafter levelA room in the roof is a different job from a cold loft floor.

Same team from first visit to last, one person to ring, and no sub-contracting your work out to somebody you have never met. The quote is itemised, not a figure on the back of a card: the survey, clearing and bagging whatever is up there now, the material and its depth, keeping the eaves clear, the hatch and any pipework, and disposal on separate lines, so you can compare it properly against anyone else's.

Nothing is left open or unusable overnight. The site is swept at the end of each day rather than the end of the job, and what comes out leaves with us. If something turns up once we start that nobody could have seen, you get a photograph and a price before we carry on.

Insulating a roof space is not development, so there is nothing to apply for and no permitted development right is spent, as Planning Portal guidance on insulation sets out. Building control is what applies, since regulation 23 brings a whole element up to current standard once more than half of it is renovated. No conservation area covers West Parley and there are only a few listed entries nearby, so listed building consent is worth a look only if yours is one. The VAT rules for energy saving materials are worth reading before you order.

Cost

What decides the price of a loft

Plasterboard taped and jointed on a lined loft wall
Lined, then tapedWhere the loft becomes a room, the boarding and the joints come next.

No rate per square metre, because the floor area is the easy part and the awkward edges are where the time goes.

Getting to it. A West Parley bungalow with a wide landing hatch, a chalet bungalow where half the roof is already a bedroom, and a detached with a trussed roof and a boarded loft are three different mornings. A hatch on a landing you can stand a ladder under is one job. A hatch over a stairwell, a crawl space you can only move through on your knees, or a loft full of boarding that has to come up and go back, is time before any material is laid.

What is up there now, and what it is sitting on. Old material that has to come out, be bagged and taken away is a cost before anything new goes down, and so is a loft full of boxes that has to be emptied and put back. Joists at 400 centres with a flat run across them is a different afternoon from a trussed roof full of bracing.

Ventilation, and the edges nobody reaches. Insulation stops at the wall plate and the eaves have to stay clear, or you trade a warm bedroom for a wet roof. Getting depth right into the corners and around the hatch, boxing over downlighters and lagging anything that now sits in the cold, is most of the labour. Approved Document L sets what the work is expected to reach.

Comparing quotes? Ask what depth is actually being laid and in how many layers, whether the old material is coming out or being covered over, whether the eaves are being kept clear, what happens to anything you store up there, and whether the hatch and the pipework are included. Two quotes for the same job are usually two different jobs.

If the loft is wet

Water running off the felt, or mould on the underside

Ring rather than use the form. Droplets on the underside of the felt, black mould spreading across the roof timbers, or insulation that is visibly damp are all telling you the same thing: warm wet air is getting into a space that cannot breathe. That does not wait, because it is the timbers that pay for it. We look before anything is added, because putting more insulation into a loft that cannot ventilate makes it worse. West Parley is only a few miles from us, so a loft that has gone wet is usually same day or next. The phone is answered 24 hours for emergencies; scheduled work runs Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm.

Call now: 07435 839745

Bungalow country

Same floor area, twice the ceiling under the roof

More than a third of the homes here are bungalows, which is a much higher share than anywhere else we work. That changes the arithmetic of this particular job. In a two storey house only the upper floor sits under the loft. In a bungalow the whole of the house does, so the ceiling losing heat to the roof is roughly double the area for the same amount of living space.

The practical consequence is that loft insulation pays back faster on this street than almost anywhere, and that a poor job costs more too. The other consequence is the shape of the roof. A bungalow roof usually has a shallow pitch and comes down close to the ceiling at the edges, so the last stretch out to the wall plate is a crawl on your front with a board and a pole, in the one place where the air gap must not be blocked. That corner is where a rushed job cuts its time, and it is where we spend ours.

Who you are dealing with

A local firm you can check

We cover West Parley, Longham, Ferndown, Hampreston and the BH22 addresses along the Stour, with Dorset Council for planning and building control. You are dealing with Bournemouth Roofing & Building, the trading name of Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719, which you can look up in a minute. Thomas Hannen's business, and he is the one who comes out to price the job, not a salesman. A verified customer's 10 out of 10 on Checkatrade. The visit and the written quote are both free.

Questions

Questions from West Parley customers

Our insulation looks level with the joists. Is that not enough?

It was the normal standard when these houses went up and it is well short of what a ceiling is expected to reach now. More to the point, a flush layer leaves every joist bridging heat through the plaster. Laying a second layer across the top costs far less than starting again and it is the change you actually feel in the room below.

Do you have to take the old wool out first?

Not if it is sound. Dry material that has simply flattened is fine to keep as the bottom layer, straightened up and gapped out first. What has to go is anything wet, anything that has broken down into dust, and anything with droppings in it. We show you which you have with photographs at the survey and price the removal separately if it is needed.

Can you reach right into the eaves on a bungalow roof?

Yes, and it is the slowest part of the day. There is barely any headroom at the edge of a shallow roof, so it is done from a board with the material worked out by hand rather than pushed. The aim is full depth right out over the wall plate with the air gap above it still open, which is the opposite of packing the corner solid.

Is there any disruption to the rest of the bungalow?

Not much, but it is all on one floor, so we sheet the route from the front door to the hatch and keep it clear. Old material is bagged in the loft rather than dropped through, the floors are swept at the end of each day, and everything we take out goes on the van the same day.

Free quote

Boarded loft, and no idea what is under it?

We will lift a board, measure what is really there and put an itemised written price in front of you. The site visit and the quote are both free.