Fascia, soffit and guttering replacement in Cadnam and Bartley

Rotten boards taken off rather than capped over, runs re-hung to a proper fall, and a straight answer on what the National Park will want to see.

The site visit is free and so is the written itemised quote. Thomas Hannen prices every job himself.

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Fascia, soffit and guttering replacement in Cadnam and Bartley is normally repair work with nothing to apply for. It stops being that the moment the appearance changes, because the National Park Authority is your planning authority here, not the district council.

In Cadnam and Bartley roofline trouble tends to start at a dropped soffit, a gutter off its brackets or a softened fascia. A soffit has dropped away from the wall and there is a bird going in and out of the gap. A gutter has pulled off its brackets at one end and the wall below it has gone green. Or the fascia has softened and the paint is blown along the whole front of the house. If that gutter is now hanging loose over the lane, or water is pouring down the wall, ring 07435 839745.

Each of those is decided by the timber behind the board, not by the board itself, and you cannot see it from the ground. We come out, get to the eaves, test the boards with a screwdriver and photograph the rafter feet underneath. Then a quote in writing, split so the boards, the gutter, every downpipe and the access each show a figure of their own. The site visit and the quote are free, and Thomas prices the job himself.

The work

What comes off, and what goes back

A finished tiled roof with a new white fascia and gutter run along the eaves (illustrative photo for fascias and guttering in Cadnam and Bartley)
New boards, not cappingThe old fascia comes off, so whatever is soft behind it gets found. Illustrative photo.

Reading the boards. Plenty of the housing here is older, from before the First World War or between the wars, so painted softwood is still common and so is a deep overhanging eaves.

Softwood on Cadnam and Bartley houses rots from the back and the top edge, where the felt has been dripping onto it, so the front can look tolerable while the board is soft the whole way through. We test at the ends of each run and either side of every joint. Where it goes, the fascia, the soffit and the bargeboard come off together.

The structure underneath. With the boards off you can see the rafter feet, the wall plate and the bottom course of tiles, which is the only honest way to price the job. Soft rafter ends are cut back and spliced. The tilt fillet is reinstated so the bottom tile lies at its proper angle, and an eaves tray is fitted so the felt finishes over the gutter and not behind it. Capping over is the shortcut we will not take on wet timber, because the rot carries on under the plastic and the new fixings are holding into nothing. Over a dry, sound, firmly fixed board, capping over is a fair job and we will quote it that way.

Gutters and pipework. Everything that hangs off the fascia is priced as its own item: the gutter run, each outlet, the unions, the brackets, any hopper, each downpipe and the shoe at the bottom. Half round is the standard profile, ogee sits square against the fascia and reads better on an older elevation, and deepflow is the one to specify where a long slope empties into a short run and the gutter overflows every time it rains hard. uPVC, aluminium and cast iron all have their place, and on the older properties in Cadnam and Bartley we would sooner re-bed a cast iron joint and paint the run than take it down.

Hanging it so it empties. The fault to check for first is a run with no fall in it. Level looks tidy and works like a trough: water stands in the low spots, the outlet silts, and the timber behind a bracket never dries. So a line goes up, the run drops steadily to the outlet, and the brackets go in close enough that no length can bow, every one taking a screw into solid timber. Then we fill it from the far end and watch it leave at the shoe. Each downpipe is clipped back and made to deliver into a gully or a soakaway, because a pipe emptying onto a path puts the damp and the staining straight into the wall.

Ventilation and what lives up there. A deep soffit hides a lot. It is where birds and wasps nest, where moss and debris off the tiles collects, and where a loft quietly loses its air supply. While the boards are down we put in eaves ventilation, through the soffit or over the fascia, and make sure the air gap has not been closed off by insulation pushed too far into the eaves. Then the verge and the ends of each run are meshed so nothing gets back in, and every outlet is proved clear rather than left blocked.

How it runs

Replacing the roofline on a cottage, bungalow or detached house

A completed hipped roof with the eaves, fascia and gutter run finished (one of our own jobs, shown for fascias and guttering in Cadnam and Bartley)
Every hip, every runA hipped roof is more eaves per house, and more to hang straight. Photo from one of our own jobs.

Thomas walks round the outside with you, eyes up every length of guttering and pokes a screwdriver into any fascia where the paint has flaked.

Cadnam and Bartley mixes older cottages with post-war bungalows and detached houses, and either way you often find painted softwood fascias and bargeboards, wide overhangs with deep soffits, and gutters that have dropped out of line. In the written quote you will find each item on its own: tower or scaffold, how many metres per run, taking down old boards and gutter, new fascia, soffit and bargeboard, new gutter with its outlets and downpipes, and the skip.

Soffit boards on the post-war houses are sometimes asbestos cement. Where that is possible, a sample gets tested before any cutting starts, and you have the result in writing first. Thomas is the one you speak to from strip to finish. Usually a tower on your own drive is all we need in Cadnam and Bartley. Debris is swept up each day and the old timber leaves with us. Rotten rafter feet discovered behind the fascia get photographed and priced before we go further.

Replacing like for like is repair, so there is no planning application and building control are not involved. Both villages come under the National Park Authority for planning; in Bartley, inside the Forest North East conservation area, changing the material on a front elevation is something the Authority takes an interest in. Its interactive property map covers your address, and a listed house needs consent for the work itself.

Cost

Where the money goes on a new fascia and gutter

A roof part way through re-tiling, with the eaves course and the gutter visible (one of our own jobs, shown for fascias and guttering in Cadnam and Bartley)
The bottom courseThe tiles have to drip into the gutter rather than behind it. Photo from one of our own jobs.

A roofline is not priced per metre. A metre of fascia round a bay window on a Cadnam bungalow takes far longer than a metre along a plain gable.

Getting up there. The wide overhang on a bungalow can be reached from a tower on the drive. A detached house whose gable sits behind an oak, or a Bartley cottage with low eaves over a planted border, needs the platform built round what is in the way, and a conservatory under the gutter means bridging the glass. Because of the roofwork rules, access has its own line.

Behind the old board. When fascia has rotted, the real question is whether the rafter ends and the wall plate behind are still good, and nobody can say until the board comes down. Covering rotten timber with a plastic cap just hides it, so we strip the old boards off.

Counting the extras. Corners, bays, a dish or a cable in the way, plus each outlet, hopper and downpipe, are counted separately, and the new gutter is hung with a proper fall. Under the Cadnam and Bartley oaks and pines, leaf guards might be worth having; they are a separate line you can leave off.

Before you choose, ask the other firm: are the old boards being taken off or capped, what happens if the rafter ends are rotten, and is it the whole roofline or just the fascia?

If a section has come away

A gutter pulled down or a fascia rotted through

A section of gutter swinging loose over the drive is a hazard, so keep cars and people from under it and do not go up to it on your own ladder. Phone instead of filling in the form.

With the gutter off its brackets or a downpipe cracked at the swan neck, the next downpour runs down the brickwork and soaks into the wall. When we come out, we take down what is loose, refix or prop what can stay, and point the water away from the footings, which matters on Cadnam clay that shrinks and swells. The full run is priced once we know how far the rot has spread. Scheduled work runs Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm. Ring us for this, and a missed call is returned as soon as we can manage.

Call now: 07435 839745

Worth knowing

Your planning authority is the National Park, not the district

The National Park boundary is the thing that catches people out here. Cadnam and Bartley sit inside the New Forest National Park, so planning decisions are taken by the Park Authority and not the district council, and the Authority looks harder at how things appear from a lane or a green than an ordinary planning office would.

For a straight roofline replacement none of that engages. Taking rotten boards off and putting the same thing back in the same place is maintenance, and there is nothing to apply for. It engages when the look changes: a painted timber fascia going to bright white plastic on a frontage that is visible from the road, cast iron coming off and a modern square profile going up, or a deep traditional overhang being boxed in flush. None of that is automatically refused, and much of it is fine, but it is worth a phone call to the Authority before you commit rather than after the scaffold is up. The Authority sets out its approach in its heritage and conservation guidance. Our part is simple: we tell you honestly whether what you are asking for is a like for like renewal or a change of appearance, and we put both options on the quote so you can choose with your eyes open.

Who you are dealing with

Your roofline, priced by the man who owns the firm

Cadnam and Bartley are 17.5 miles from our Boscombe base, and we also cover Copythorne, Netley Marsh, Ashurst and the other villages along the top of the Forest in SO40. The New Forest National Park Authority is the planning authority, and New Forest District Council handles building control.

You would be dealing with Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, a company registered in England and Wales, number 15471719. The business belongs to Thomas Hannen, who walks round your house and writes the price. One verified customer on Checkatrade gave a score of 10 out of 10. The site visit is free, as is the itemised quote on paper. Before you book a visit in Cadnam and Bartley, you can read our customers' Google reviews, word for word, on our reviews page.

Planning at a glance

Do you need planning permission in Cadnam and Bartley?

Most repairs in Cadnam and Bartley need no application at all. What decides whether a change to the outside of your house does is who the council is, whether a conservation area or a listing applies, and whether the place sits in a protected landscape.

The planning position in Cadnam and Bartley, from council and national records.
Question In Cadnam and Bartley
Who decides New Forest National Park Authority is the planning authority for Cadnam and Bartley. New Forest National Park Authority's heritage pages set out what it controls.
Conservation area Yes: Forest North East Conservation Area. Check whether your street is inside the boundary before changing anything visible.
Listed buildings Yes, there are listed buildings in and around Cadnam and Bartley. If yours is one, work can need listed building consent.
Protected landscape Inside the New Forest National Park, where design is looked at more closely and permitted development rights are narrower.

Questions

Questions about fascias and guttering in Cadnam and Bartley

Do I need permission to replace my fascias here?

Not for a like for like renewal. That is repair and maintenance, so there is no application and nothing for building control. Permission comes into it if the appearance changes noticeably from a public road, or if the building itself is listed.

Can I keep the timber look without keeping the maintenance?

Yes. A woodgrain foiled board reads as painted timber from the road and needs washing, not repainting. It is usually the answer where somebody wants to lose the ladder work without the house looking plastic.

There is a bird nesting behind my soffit. Can you still do the work?

Not while the nest is active. We will make the area safe, leave it alone until the birds have finished, and book the renewal after that. Once the new boards are up the gap is closed with mesh so it cannot happen again.

How long will a full roofline take on a bungalow?

Often a day or two, because a single storey run in Cadnam and Bartley can usually be worked from a tower rather than needing scaffold. A deep overhang, a conservatory in the way or several downpipes will push that out, and those show as separate lines on the quote.

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