Patios in Southbourne

Old patios dug out and rebuilt behind houses, bungalows and flats, laid to fall away from the wall and below the damp course.

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Patios in Southbourne are laid behind Edwardian and inter-war houses, bungalows and ground floor flats: the old slabs and bedding dug out, a compacted Type 1 sub base, porcelain or natural stone on a full mortar bed, a fall away from the house and joints properly filled. Front drives are covered under driveways in Southbourne.

The usual starting point in Southbourne is an old patio that has had its day. Concrete slabs laid on a few dabs of mortar decades ago, now rocking underfoot and sunk in the middle. A terrace built up so high against the back wall that damp has started to show inside. Or a ground floor flat with a tired strip of paving outside the back door and nobody sure who is allowed to replace it.

We come and look at your Southbourne garden, check the levels against the damp course, work out how the slabs and the spoil will get in and out, and see where the water goes now. Then you get a written itemised quote with the dig, the base, the drainage, the paving and the jointing on separate lines. The visit and the quote are free.

The work

Back gardens behind the houses, the bungalows and the flats

Porcelain patio slabs laid to a fall with a gravel border alongside (one of our own jobs, shown for patios in Southbourne)
Laid to a fallWater goes away from the house, not along the wall. Photo from one of our own jobs.

The old patio is dug out. Old slabs, the sand or mortar under them, any concrete and any made ground come out down to a formation that will compact. Tree roots are cut back properly rather than paved over. The muck away is priced by the load, and on a small Southbourne garden it is often the biggest single line.

The base. A geotextile membrane over anything soft, then MOT Type 1 laid and compacted in layers. Every slab then goes down on a full mortar bed. Slabs on dabs leave voids underneath, and voids are why the old patio rocks.

Porcelain. Dense and close to non-porous, so it shrugs off the damp sea air that keeps paving wet between showers in Southbourne, and algae have little to hold on to. It needs a slurry primer on the back of every slab to bond, and a textured finish if it will be in shade.

Sandstone, limestone and granite. Sandstone gives the warm, riven look that suits an Edwardian house, but it is porous and greens over faster. Limestone is quieter and marks more easily. Granite is the hardest wearing. Calibrated slabs are sawn to one thickness and lay truer and faster than hand cut.

Levels and the damp course. The finished patio has to sit at least two courses below the damp proof course and fall away from the house. Behind older houses the commonest fault is a patio laid up to the DPC or over an air brick. The fix is to drop the level, add a step down from the back door, and fit a channel along the threshold so rain cannot pond against the wall.

Drainage. The runoff goes to a border, a gully or a soakaway built to Approved Document H, or into a permeable build that holds it in the base and lets it away slowly.

Edgings, steps and jointing. Edgings haunched in concrete, a bullnose or coping on any step, and joints brushed in with a two part compound so they do not wash out or fill with moss the way sand joints do.

Repairs. Rocking slabs lifted and re-bedded, cracked ones cut out, washed out joints refilled, and algae or efflorescence cleaned off. We would talk you out of laying new slabs over the old patio: it raises the level towards the damp course and keeps the failed base underneath.

How it runs

From your call to a written price

One person to ring about a Southbourne patio, from the first visit to the last. The quote is itemised, not a figure on the back of a card: excavation and muck away, the sub base, the falls and where water goes, edgings and steps, the slabs themselves, and jointing on separate lines, so you can compare it properly against anyone else's.

Nothing is left open or unusable overnight. The site is swept at the end of each day rather than the end of the job, and what comes out leaves with us. If something turns up once we start that nobody could have seen, you get a photograph and a price before we carry on.

A patio at ground level in the back garden of a house rarely needs planning, but a raised terrace, a big change of level or a retaining wall can bring in planning or building control. Flats have no permitted development rights, so anything raised outside a flat is worth checking first. Close to Southbourne Grove, check the conservation area boundary as well: the council keeps the list.

Cost

What decides the price of a patio

A finished porcelain patio in the wet, showing how the surface drains and where the joints sit (one of our own jobs, shown for patios in Southbourne)
Judged in the wetRain shows the falls and the joints that a dry day hides. Photo from one of our own jobs.

No rate per square metre, because the slabs are the part you choose and the smallest part of the price.

Getting to it. A bungalow with a side path, an Edwardian house where everything goes through a narrow side gate, and a ground floor flat reached only through a shared hallway are very different to work in. Everything comes in and goes out through the garden, often through a side gate or the house. A patio you can barrow to directly is a different job from one where every slab is carried. An open dig beside the door of a ground floor flat is covered by the work at height rules for as long as it stays open.

What is coming out before anything goes down. An old concrete slab, a raised bed, tree roots or made ground all have to be dug out and taken away, and that is priced by the load rather than by the metre. The dig is where a patio quote is won or lost.

Falls, levels and the damp course. A patio has to fall away from the house and finish at least two courses below the damp proof course, and getting that right often means steps, a retaining edge or a drainage channel. Laying a new patio up against a wall at the wrong level is the single most expensive mistake on this kind of job.

Comparing quotes? Ask how deep the dig goes and what sub base is specified, whether the slabs are laid on a full wet bed or on dabs, what the falls are and where the water goes, whether edgings and steps are included, and what the jointing compound is.

If it has become a hazard

A patio that has lifted, sunk or turned slippery

Ring rather than use the form. A slab that has lifted at one corner or a step that has dropped is a trip, and a north facing patio in winter can be genuinely dangerous.

We can usually lift and re-lay the worst of it quickly, then look properly at whether the base under the rest has gone. If other flats cross the patio to reach the bins or a back door, tell the freeholder as well, because it is a shared route. Scheduled work runs Monday to Friday, 8am to 6pm. For anything urgent, ring rather than use the form, and if we cannot pick up we ring you back as soon as we can.

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The one local thing

Whose garden is it? Read the lease before the patio

A lot of Southbourne's housing is flats, many of them in large Edwardian houses divided up long ago, and the garden behind is where patio plans get complicated. Sometimes the garden belongs to the ground floor flat and is written into its lease.

Sometimes a Southbourne flat's garden is common ground owned by the freeholder and shared with the flats upstairs, with a path across it to the bins or a rear door. The lease plan says which, and it is worth ten minutes before anyone draws a patio on it.

If the garden is yours, the lease may still need the freeholder's consent for alterations, and a patio dug in against the building's wall touches something they own. If it is shared, the freeholder places the order, and where the cost comes back through the service charge they must consult leaseholders first under section 20 of the Landlord and Tenant Act 1985. Either way, keep the route the other flats use, and keep the new level below the damp course, because that wall is everybody's. We price the job so it can be circulated, and phase it so the path to the bins stays open.

Who you are dealing with

A local firm you can check

We lay patios across BH6, from West Southbourne and the roads off the Grove to Tuckton and Wick, working from our base in Boscombe under two miles away. BCP Council is the authority.

You are dealing with Bournemouth Roofing & Building, the trading name of Bournemouth Roofing & Building Ltd, registered in England and Wales, company number 15471719, which you can look up in a minute. Thomas Hannen's business, and he is the one who comes out to price the job, not a salesman. A verified customer's 10 out of 10 on Checkatrade. The visit and the written quote are both free. Before you book a visit in Southbourne, you can read our customers' Google reviews, word for word, on our reviews page.

Planning at a glance

Do you need planning permission in Southbourne?

Most repairs in Southbourne need no application at all. What decides whether a change to the outside of your house does is who the council is, whether a conservation area or a listing applies, and whether the place sits in a protected landscape.

The planning position in Southbourne, from council and national records.
Question In Southbourne
Who decides BCP Council is the planning authority for Southbourne. BCP Council's heritage pages set out what it controls.
Conservation area Yes: Southbourne Grove Conservation Area. Check whether your street is inside the boundary before changing anything visible.
Listed buildings Yes, there are listed buildings in and around Southbourne. If yours is one, work can need listed building consent.
Protected landscape No National Park or National Landscape covers Southbourne.

Questions

Questions about patios in Southbourne

I own the ground floor flat. Can I have a new patio laid?

A Southbourne flat owner needs to check the lease plan first. If the garden is demised to your flat you can usually go ahead, subject to any consent the lease requires. If it is common ground, the freeholder has to instruct it.

Porcelain or sandstone this close to the sea?

Porcelain takes in almost no water, so it stays cleaner in damp air and needs less upkeep. Sandstone looks warmer next to old brick but greens over sooner. Both last if they go down on a full bed.

Can you lay new slabs over the old patio?

We would advise against it. It lifts the level towards the damp course and leaves the base that already failed underneath. Digging out costs more at the start and far less later.

How long does a new patio take?

A typical back garden patio is days, not weeks: the dig, the base, the laying and the jointing. Carrying everything through a house or a shared hall adds time, and it shows on the quote.

Will it be a mess if everything comes through the house?

Floors and door frames are boarded and sheeted before a barrow goes in, the route is swept every day, and the spoil leaves with us.

Free quote

Get a written price for your patio

Thomas checks the levels, the access and where the water goes, then prices it line by line. The visit and the quote are free.